Transgender teacher to return to California classroom as 'true self'

[Deleted]

Gender and sex are synonyms.

Scientifically they are not. Grammatically, they are not.

[Ragnarohk]

Why? Because I disagree with some nominal facet of language relating to homosexuality? Get off the high horse.

It's sad that you think that the difference between both terms is due to and only relates to "homosexuality"

[ringpriest]

Can she get a girl pregnant?

Yes.

In recent decades, a new possibility for LGBT parenting, same-sex procreation (where two women could have a daughter with equal genetic contributions from both women, or where two men could have a son or daughter with equal genetic contributions from both men), has become a possibility, through the creation of either female sperm or male eggs from the cells of adult women and men. With female sperm and male eggs, lesbian and gay couples wishing to become parents would not have to rely on a third party donor of sperm or egg.

Now, robbed of your transparent excuse, please take your sly bigotry back to the worse parts of the 20th Century, where it belongs.

[walpole]

As I pointed out earlier, being transgendered is no longer in he DSM, and is not a mental illness according to the APA. You are welcome to think what ever you like, but it doesn't change the facts.

You highlighted the part where I was talking about breast implants. Just because the opinion APA doesn't consider it a mental illness doesn't make it a fact. If you believe something that's obviously not true you're either a child (Santa Claus), stupid,ignorant or you're mentally ill. I do not feel that people who want sex changes are stupid just that they are just mentally ill. I am in no way attacking these people.

[glo]

It relates to homosexuality? Who's the one with the agenda?

Nowhere in this thread has anyone related anything to homosexuality.

Boy, it really does suck to be you if you are wrong this often.

Ha! If we followed the logic in this thread, changing said gender would change sexual orientation as well. You know, since that's the baggage that comes with the word itself.

What am I specifically wrong about? Am I wrong because I have a differing opinion? Again, just because it's a discussion about sexuality outside the norm, doesn't mean that people are right and wrong.

[Hammercakes]

Unless they've already released an update for the DSM, Gender Dysphoria is still in the DSM and will cover some transgender people.

Just had it looked up. In the DSM-5 "Gender Dysphoria" is a condition resulting from being trans, but not getting treatment (hormones, surgery, ect) and suffering from depression or anxiety because of it.

I will add as a disclaimer that I did not read the DSM-5 myself, but that a Psychologist that I trust read it and gave me that answer.

You highlighted the part where I was talking about breast implants. Just because the opinion APA doesn't consider it a mental illness doesn't make it a fact. If you believe something that's obviously not true you're either a child (Santa Claus), stupid,ignorant or you're mentally ill. I do not feel that people who want sex changes are stupid just that they are just mentally ill. I am in no way attacking these people.

I'm sorry, clearly you have more expertise on the subject than the APA, I was wrong for questioning you, and I defer to your expert opinion.

[Deleted]

Ha! If we followed the logic in this thread, changing said gender would change serial orientation as well. You know, since that's the baggage that comes with the word itself.

What am I specifically wrong about? Am I wrong because I have a differing opinion? Again, just because it's a discussion about security outside the norm, doesn't mean that people are right and wrong.

You are wrong because you are using definitions that contradict current definitions, is that so hard to understand?

It could very well be argued that changing gender would change sexual orientation from a societal perspective but from a biological perspective it would remain the same.

[Noomz]

But where's Mister Hat?

[glo]

It's sad that you think that the difference between both terms is due to and only relates to "homosexuality"

So you're of the opinion that transgender people are unrelated to homosexuality? You know, cause I used the word related and all.

[Ragnarohk]

Ha! If we followed the logic in this thread, changing said gender would change sexual orientation as well. You know, since that's the baggage that comes with the word itself.

What am I specifically wrong about? Am I wrong because I have a differing opinion? Again, just because it's a discussion about sexuality outside the norm, doesn't mean that people are right and wrong.

No, you are wrong because you are using outdated meanings for words and you are creating false associations between words and their origins/meanings, you said that gender was a term that related to homosexuality when they are both different things

[Deleted]

So you're of the opinion that transgender people are unrelated to homosexuality? You know, cause I used the word related and all.

Considering ones identification of gender and ones sexual preferences are entirely unrelated concepts, it really is logical.

[Deleted]

So you're of the opinion that transgender people are unrelated to homosexuality? You know, cause I used the word related and all.

Gender identity and sexuality are two entirely different things. Completely different and unrelated.

[Simca]

This is not "news" and therefore not worthy of an exception to the ban on gender identity topics.

The level of ignorance in this thread is pretty high as usual, mainly from a group of people who are truly clueless but act like they know what they're talking about because they had a high-school biology class and believe that their limited knowledge covers all edge cases without thinking over the ramifications of their words.

Locked.