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  1. #101
    haha im sure it is not about character models, sucha models is something you can deliver even every 2-3 weeks in a patch ... i think they don't have PVE content ready but the biggest problem probably is class balance/ mechanics. Tank mechanics, DPS mechanics and nerfs for healers.

    They are trying to fix pvp and stuff... so i would assume they are sitting on an ready dreanor that needs some work on scenarios and few more complex quests but they don't know how the game should work... if they knew they would release beta by now

  2. #102
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    Do you actually believe that? Because if you do then I feel bad for you.
    How else do you explain their consistent lack of planning? If everyone dropped the game these delays simply would not happen.
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    GTA 5 has not sold so well on PC and the Multi player version (the one that is measured through Xfire) was not that good.
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    There is no way in hell Siege will last more than 6 months. It just isn't possible.
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  3. #103
    Well it's one of the hyped features for the new expansion it would suck if they rushed things and look ugly or even incomplete.

  4. #104
    I just love that there are two threads on the front page right now, one full of QQ about the character models delaying the expansion and the other full of QQ that the expansion might release when the character models aren't all done.
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    I just love that there are two threads on the front page right now, one full of QQ about the character models delaying the expansion and the other full of QQ that the expansion might release when the character models aren't all done.
    It's the vocal minority being vocal. Imagine lining up 100 people and making statements in front of them, only for one or two of them at a distance down the line starting to make shrill shrieking noises. No matter what statement you make they'll always be someone in that line who starts their shrill shriek.

  6. #106
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    I think they want all the character models to be done on time for the games release, but if worst case scenario if that deadline hits and a few aren't done that game will come out because they need that money. I'm surprised Draenei models are being released with Warlords, as they could release them later on in the expansions life cycle and I don't think anyone would fault them. I do think all the art assets are what's keeping this game running so slowly, then again maybe they're taking their sweet time on purpose because of the Diablo 3 expansion. I'm sure they don't want to have two IPs compete with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ytlayol View Post
    Character models aren't the source of the delay, they are just unusually slow with content updates.
    Mmm.

    In comparison with other games, whose studios have far less resources, the Blizzard content cycle for World of Warcraft is absolutely awful. The sad part is that it's almost impossible to get to the bottom of why.
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    Well, it is possible for people, many people actually, to not think very highly of World of Warcraft. Those self same people may even consider other games in the genre superior due to their own subjective qualifiers. Qualifiers which are just as valid as the subjective qualifiers of those whom believe World of Warcraft is a "23 out of 10".

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Zellviren View Post
    Mmm.

    In comparison with other games, whose studios have far less resources, the Blizzard content cycle for World of Warcraft is absolutely awful. The sad part is that it's almost impossible to get to the bottom of why.
    The reason is simple. The game is complicated and old (15-18 years not just almost-10) and the code base is huge, and the concern for stability (particularly resilience against exploits) makes things go VERY slowly in Blizzard land sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudge View Post
    The reason is simple. The game is complicated and old (15-18 years not just almost-10) and the code base is huge, and the concern for stability (particularly resilience against exploits) makes things go VERY slowly in Blizzard land sometimes.
    That doesn't even come close to explaining why it takes them so long to get new content out, however. Their turnaround is appallingly slow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Well, it is possible for people, many people actually, to not think very highly of World of Warcraft. Those self same people may even consider other games in the genre superior due to their own subjective qualifiers. Qualifiers which are just as valid as the subjective qualifiers of those whom believe World of Warcraft is a "23 out of 10".

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    I sincerely doubt that new models are THE reason for a fall release date. Especially considering that they recently posted they might not even all be done in time. (Which would be a pretty embarrassing failure on their part)

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    It has been stated that not all the models may be done in time, therefore the game can be released without them.
    They are not slowing anything down, it is not needing them to be done, they are just a popular request.
    In light of that comment I agree it's probably not the reason for the delay. But I think that after all the hints that we'd be getting a spring/summer release they need to pull something extra out of the bag to justify an autumn release date.
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  12. #112
    I thought a separate team is working on the models, and blizzard had said the new model's would be released in sections even if they all don't make release...

  13. #113
    1. hype new models and WoD
    2. collect subs
    3. collect preorders
    4. delay WoD and models
    5. collect subs
    6. collect christmas sales
    7. new models will be added in patch 6.1
    8. collect more subs
    9. profit

    There is no ???.

  14. #114
    no they are just excuse for Blizzard.

    there will be less raid tiers, 5mans, no class or race etc. because of "lack of resources"

    and they got " lack of resources" because of new models that are "super, awesome and sure you will love it much more than raids or 5mans"

  15. #115
    For those that say that the new models are a waste of time.

    Why, PvP is a waste of time, I don't like it. I'm not really sure if I will raid Mythic mode. It's a fucking waste of time. Why give us an entire new continent? It is a fact, yes a FACT that nobody will care about how the world looks. You know why? Because I say so. And mates, my word is law...

    So, am I speaking your language clearly?
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  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    For those that say that the new models are a waste of time.

    Why, PvP is a waste of time, I don't like it. I'm not really sure if I will raid Mythic mode. It's a fucking waste of time. Why give us an entire new continent? It is a fact, yes a FACT that nobody will care about how the world looks. You know why? Because I say so. And mates, my word is law...

    So, am I speaking your language clearly?
    why should anyone here care about you?

    for me new models are waste of time and I don't care if for you it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bach0r View Post
    why should anyone here care about you?

    for me new models are waste of time and I don't care if for you it isn't.
    The irony is strong with this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Well, it is possible for people, many people actually, to not think very highly of World of Warcraft. Those self same people may even consider other games in the genre superior due to their own subjective qualifiers. Qualifiers which are just as valid as the subjective qualifiers of those whom believe World of Warcraft is a "23 out of 10".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumatran View Post
    So we can thank blizzard for the 15 months of SoO on the character models? The stuff that gets hidden under armor anyway? Awesome.
    Stop crying. WoW is a MMORPG and therefore new character models are way more important than releasing the game some months later.
    Maybe some of you should really get a life outside of your basement so that you're not that dependent on regular content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumatran View Post
    So we can thank blizzard for the 15 months of SoO on the character models? The stuff that gets hidden under armor anyway? Awesome.
    Even if this would be the case, it would still be perfectly worth it.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by PeggBundy View Post
    Yes, Blizz clearly stated that we will get 15 months of SoO because of character models. The expansion has been completely finished for about a year now, they are just waiting on the new models.
    blizzard said it took so long because of hearthstone! see? i can do this, too.

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