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  1. #81
    Epic! Naztrak's Avatar
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    Class roles are so 2004., its all about homogenization and dungeon faceroll now.
    PvE is a minigame // Rerolled from affly to spriest after 8 years, thx pandaland changes

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    I think requiring class roles in random-queue content is silly. They should all work like scenarios, DPS-focused but possible to do as Tank or Healer, just not optimal or required. This would greatly shorten queue times for what will be Normal dungeons and LFR. Let Heroic Dungeons be like Heroic Scenarios and Flex/higher modes: pre-form only. There, the Tanks and Heals will be needed and the community can flourish around that. Or not, if people would rather go into DPS-only content and be happy with that much.

    Removing them entirely just is not appropriate for WoW. It goes against the origins of the game. But not requiring them in every single group-focused content aspect would be better for the game, IMO.

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    3 DPS in a scenario plays a lot like GW2, especially if they're hybrid DPS.
    For anything beyond that: Been there, done that, left those games.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Primernova View Post
    No they are not. Roles make a ROLE playing game.

    This is why GW2 fell so flat on it's face.
    That game's attempt at big bosses which was "Zerg,die,res,zerg,die,res" was probably the least fun I've had in a game in the last 10years.

    TESO seems to be making the same kind of mistake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seriss View Post
    How about we wait till we're actually playing it before we go into estimating the amount of content in comparison to expansion x and how little it is and how bad it is and how feature y doesn't count because some people don't care about it and those people that like it don't count because they don't matter for some obscure reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    That game's attempt at big bosses which was "Zerg,die,res,zerg,die,res" was probably the least fun I've had in a game in the last 10years.

    TESO seems to be making the same kind of mistake.
    That sounds pretty much exactly what Blizzard have been doing with the Celestials and all the other world bosses, and scenarios.

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    I don't like the trinity, first thing I played MMO-wise was Ultima and any class would do anything. I mean, usually you would have a tamer tanking (their pet at least), but so often I would tank on my bushido/chiv/archer just cuz he was decked out so well and people knew people, so we'd all pull bars and cross heal each other with no problems.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyllian View Post
    That sounds pretty much exactly what Blizzard have been doing with the Celestials and all the other world bosses, and scenarios.
    Scenarios, yes.
    Celestials - to a point. I guess that a DPS can tank a celestial for a short while with self-healing.
    Ordos, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    That game's attempt at big bosses which was "Zerg,die,res,zerg,die,res" was probably the least fun I've had in a game in the last 10years.

    TESO seems to be making the same kind of mistake.
    And MMOs devolve into Second Life with a High Fantasy setting.

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