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  1. #21
    Why don't you guys actually do something besides bitch at Blizzard to fix your problems. Find a higher pop realm and transfer to it. Bam, you can enjoy the game like the rest of us. 1000000 of players have already done it. It is why your server is dead to begin with.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    But this is what im saying. You don't have to look forward to merges. It doesn't do much you just get a few good things but overall merging a dead server with another dead server accomplishes nothing.
    Depends on who you get merged with , I've seen on realm forums that some places are more alive since the merge and in some cases they did indeed merge a desert with another desert.

    I'm not excited for the merge anyway cause I've been waiting on it since September and after they merged EU way slower than NA and almost exclusively merged PvP realms for the 1st 5 months I have given up hope that my realm will get merged before I pay the fee to realm transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    Why don't you guys actually do something besides bitch at Blizzard to fix your problems. Find a higher pop realm and transfer to it. Bam, you can enjoy the game like the rest of us. 1000000 of players have already done it. It is why your server is dead to begin with.
    I fail to see why I should pay 20 Euro to enjoy the advertised endgame or the MMO part of MMORPG, it is Blizzard their responsibility to make sure that the server offers a healthy population to do the things that are advertised as being ''end game''.

    If they fail to do so they should get rid of the dead servers and offer people free transfers to selected other realms which still hold their own.

    What you are saying is that I should give Blizzard 20 Euro to enjoy a game which already costs 13 a month cause they invented paid faction changes and realm transfers and messed up realms that were once healthy and thriving, while infact it is their job to either fill my server up again or close it down and offer me a free transfer.

    What you are suggesting is the same as going to Mcdonalds and pay for ketchup while there is a bottle standing for free use on your table, i's their job to make sure there is something in the bottle or they should get rid of the free bottles on the table.
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  3. #23
    They gave you a free 90 to start somewhere else if you're not happy with your current server..

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    I still don't think we need 498 servers anymore. Hell 50 - 75 Servers across US & EU would be fine to me.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    They gave you a free 90 to start somewhere else if you're not happy with your current server..
    No they gave a free lvl 90 for people to quickly hop into the game or start an alt, actually they gave a free lvl 90 so people could jump straight into WoD on launch.
    I don't know where on earth you got the idea that this boost existed for fixing realm populations ( if anything it will make the overcrowded realms even more overcrowded )

    Also I'm not gonnna give up my TBC character with all her achievements and raid achievements from T6 up until T14 and start a naked lvl 90 with no achievements whatsoever, kinda makes the 7 years of work I put into this toon obsolete, and sure as hell won't help me find a raiding guild in WoD if I show up with a toon with no raid history.

    Once again, it is Blizzard their job to provide a healthy playerbase on a server or shut that server down and give free transfers off it if they see it's dead, people shouldn't be paying 20 Euro for a paid realm transfer or preordering the expansion at the Blizzard fee just so they get a healthy server , especially not since this game has a monthly fee.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfaced View Post
    What realm are you and what realms did you get connected with?

    Mine (Darksorrow) got connected with 2 realms, and it didnt counter faction-balance because horde is still lacking in numbers.
    I don't have the info on where but Blizz said that faction balance wasn't the main reason for merging realms. They wanted to get a certain amount of players together, and faction didn't matter. Mine got merged with 2 others and we still outnumber Alliance by a ton.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by FluFF View Post
    No they gave a free lvl 90 for people to quickly hop into the game or start an alt, actually they gave a free lvl 90 so people could jump straight into WoD on launch.
    I don't know where on earth you got the idea that this boost existed for fixing realm populations ( if anything it will make the overcrowded realms even more overcrowded )

    Also I'm not gonnna give up my TBC character with all her achievements and raid achievements from T6 up until T14 and start a naked lvl 90 with no achievements whatsoever, kinda makes the 7 years of work I put into this toon obsolete, and sure as hell won't help me find a raiding guild in WoD if I show up with a toon with no raid history.

    Once again, it is Blizzard their job to provide a healthy playerbase on a server or shut that server down and give free transfers off it if they see it's dead, people shouldn't be paying 20 Euro for a paid realm transfer or preordering the expansion at the Blizzard fee just so they get a healthy server , especially not since this game has a monthly fee.
    Let me rephrase if that wasn't clear enough.

    They gave you a free 90 with any purchase of WOD, you can use it to start fresh on another server if that bothers you.

    Achievements are account wide now.

    I paid to xfer 11 of my toons to another server (granted it was when they did the 50% reduction on all services), I know exactly what you mean, but if you prefer to play on a dead realm and keep your achievements, it's your decision.

    Everything is going to be cross-realm anyways soon.

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    I personally think they should simply allow permanent free realm transfers AND faction changes to a lower population faction/server. Would it make dead servers come magically back to life? Certainly not, but by damn, it'd help faction imbalance no end.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    Let me rephrase if that wasn't clear enough.

    They gave you a free 90 with any purchase of WOD, you can use it to start fresh on another server if that bothers you.

    Achievements are account wide now.

    I paid to xfer 11 of my toons to another server (granted it was when they did the 50% reduction on all services), I know exactly what you mean, but if you prefer to play on a dead realm and keep your achievements, it's your decision.

    Everything is going to be cross-realm anyways soon.
    Yes it's my decision but it doesn't have to be, I dunno why you are so delusional to the clear fact that it's Blizzard their task to revive the dead realms or close them down and offer FREE transfers, I should NOT pay 20 Euro's or start a naked toon cause of their incompetence to do any of the correct 2 options.

    Also not everything is account wide in terms of achievements ( like pvp stuff and selected other things ) I thought this would be known by now.

    Anyway I'm gonna drop this discussion since we got way different opinions , you are an avid defender of the paid transfer or lvl 90 boost and I'm an avid defender of keeping my TBC toon and expecting Blizzard to to the correct thing so I can enjoy end game without paid options that weren't even invented to get of a dead realm in the 1st place.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Merging a dead server with another dead server honestly didn't do anything. Still hard to find proper raiding guilds and pugs, well, be prepared to wipe i guess.

    Yeah, you can cross realm everything now, but how is that even going to help? Everyone still wants you in the best gear and not to mention if anything goes wrong you gotta sit there for an hour until they finish the blame game. It is also even worse because people can just leave and then that starts a chain reaction of members quitting and then its finished.

    How many cross realm raids have you been in that just fail on first boss or halfway?
    Would blizz merge us again with another server?
    Both my Ally and Horde servers were merged with larger realms. AH prices have gone down and I can find things easier without over paying.

    There have also been many flex groups forming in /trade. These groups may be unsuccessful, but that's the risk you have with any pug group. A pug group from a high pop server isn't automatically better than a pug group from a low pop server. Cross realm servers just increase the chance of players finding groups/raids. Actually completing the raid is a different issue.

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    Sounds like half your problem is the community, something no amount of connecting is going to solve.
    Its cross realm that causes the problem not server merges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    A realm dies for one reason only, the community on it.
    Other realms gain numbers, so therefore blizzard are not to blame.
    Mergers are a temporary solution, for there is no guarantee that it won't happen again to a newly populated or already populated realm.
    Please stop blaming the community. These in game problems are getting worse due to in game changes. Changes that can only be made by Blizzard.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by NigelGurney View Post
    Please stop blaming the community. These in game problems are getting worse due to in game changes. Changes that can only be made by Blizzard.
    Well it is true to a certain extent.

    The part of the problem is in fact the community but its not the root of the problem.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by FluFF View Post
    Yes it's my decision but it doesn't have to be, I dunno why you are so delusional to the clear fact that it's Blizzard their task to revive the dead realms or close them down and offer FREE transfers, I should NOT pay 20 Euro's or start a naked toon cause of their incompetence to do any of the correct 2 options.

    Also not everything is account wide in terms of achievements ( like pvp stuff and selected other things ) I thought this would be known by now.

    Anyway I'm gonna drop this discussion since we got way different opinions , you are an avid defender of the paid transfer or lvl 90 boost and I'm an avid defender of keeping my TBC toon and expecting Blizzard to to the correct thing so I can enjoy end game without paid options that weren't even invented to get of a dead realm in the 1st place.
    You socialist Europeans are so funny.

  14. #34
    Will be different in WoD when people return and notice that their realms aren't dead, probably more likely to stay. EU merges are also incredibly slow and you if you're there you shouldn't see much of a difference. They merged my original server Skullcrusher with Xavius and it never even went medium, it's as low as it was before the merge now.
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    may i suggest you check out wowwiki or any similar site, it's Grom that orders the murder of Cairne

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Merging a dead server with another dead server honestly didn't do anything. Still hard to find proper raiding guilds and pugs, well, be prepared to wipe i guess.

    Yeah, you can cross realm everything now, but how is that even going to help? Everyone still wants you in the best gear and not to mention if anything goes wrong you gotta sit there for an hour until they finish the blame game. It is also even worse because people can just leave and then that starts a chain reaction of members quitting and then its finished.

    How many cross realm raids have you been in that just fail on first boss or halfway?
    Would blizz merge us again with another server?

    Funny. Our server was merged and it helped heaps. Just sounds like you guys have a shitty community.

    We have guild member from 4 different servers, and can find a pug 90% of the time.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    Blizz will throw numbers at you, but the honest truth is the game is losing subs right now.
    i will trust blizzard numbers more then no numbers from stonecloak. but he thats just me

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by FluFF View Post
    Yes it's my decision but it doesn't have to be,
    Except you chose to make it Blizzard's decision at their own discretion and then get angry when their discretion isn't fast enough for you.

    You need to understand that your problem is self-inflicted.

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