Healing priests lack of CC?

[steveyboy]

So judging from WOD patch notes we will only have 1 form of CC, and thats from a talent.


Thoughts?

[Autumn xD]

Won't be playing my Priest.

& (I shouldn't be making judgements on it prior-to, but) I'm not entirely sure on the reasoning behind putting MC on shared DR.
Unless significantly changed, it will be getting picked even less than it already is, and that's without mentioning the Fiend/Scream change.

[Blackmorgrim]

From how it looks so far, priests may have Psychic Horror as a baseline CC. Then you have the CC line of talents (Void Tendrils/Psychic Scream/Dominate Mind). Holy will then have Chastise, and Shadow will have Silence.

For Healing priests in PVP I'd be a little more upset that you don't have SWD anymore. No more CC break for you guys.

With regards to shared DRs... I believe this is the trend for most classes. Unless you're a rogue, most of the CCs you have will be on the same DR.

[kardacz]

Psychic Horror (with orb cost removed) as a standard CC for each specialisation doesn't sound that bad. You'd still pick Psychic Scream for pvp from the first row anyway so nothing is really changing, besides losing Psyfiend which is a good thing in my opinion as it was dumb spell to begin with.

[steveyboy]

Psychic Horror (with orb cost removed) as a standard CC for each specialisation doesn't sound that bad. You'd still pick Psychic Scream for pvp from the first row anyway so nothing is really changing, besides losing Psyfiend which is a good thing in my opinion as it was dumb spell to begin with.

Missed Psychic horror as a standard CC, but even then, most classes have multiple forms of CC and the only ones who have seemed to be nerfed into oblivion so far are hunters.

[Dalverick]

Psychic Horror (with orb cost removed) as a standard CC for each specialisation doesn't sound that bad. You'd still pick Psychic Scream for pvp from the first row anyway so nothing is really changing, besides losing Psyfiend which is a good thing in my opinion as it was dumb spell to begin with.

Hmm.. I liked having mind control instead of tendrils/psyfiend. Guess that's out the door.

Also Psychic Scream was nerfed hard. It now has a 45 second cooldown, fears in PvP have been nerfed down to 6 seconds, and thus far all of the fear break mechanics are still in the game with no nerfs (tremor totem, berserker, lichborne, nimble brew, etc).

Priests are not looking good so far. I am a little agitated that priest CC is getting nerfed because all of the other classes were out of control. Psychic Scream and Mind Control were baseline forever.. and now we get nerfed versions of either of them..not both.

[lizon]

All CC is being nerfed tot he ground when it comes to PVP. Get used to getting CC'd less and having fewer instant cast abilities that can kill you cause most of them will require a cast time now.

[Dalverick]

Don't see why a healer needs much if any CC. Your role is a healer, your throughput should be somewhat better than a single, equally geared dps beating on you in a 1v1 scenario. If you're rolling heals in PvP, then you should have DPS protecting you. If you're talking about PvE... then roll around as Disc if you still want decent healing, or Shadow if you want to kill things before it actually matters. And in endgame PvE, when every gcd and thought is focused on healing, that CC is just another distraction that can lead to player deaths.

If I am looking at this correctly all other healing specs keep their CC except paladins losing blinding light. But they still have Hammer of Justice and a fear. So.....I guess priests are the exception?

[Nurasu]

If I am looking at this correctly all other healing specs keep their CC except paladins losing blinding light. But they still have Hammer of Justice and a fear. So.....I guess priests are the exception?

That's correct - discipline priests go from having the least amount of CC of any spec in the game to having precisely one...

[Mazeari]

For Healing priests in PVP I'd be a little more upset that you don't have SWD anymore. No more CC break for you guys.

This really, we still have a remainder of 1 cc, and in line with multipe cc being removed it isn't that bad. However the sw removal, predicts a bad future for wow pvp.
Reason is, Shamans still have tremor. Paladins still have bubble and HoS, monks still have their stun removal, druis still have shapeshift. Meaning every healer except a priest has one or multipe cc breakers.
Either way you look at it, as to what future the new cc changes will behold. Priest look severely gimped.

Unless the glyph would teach you the spell aswell, in addition as to it being used on 20%+ hp.
Also PoM 1.5 sec cast still there makes me cringe.

Might I add it severely reduces the skill cap aswell. Coming to think of it most cc spells are no longer able to be instant cast and or have their cast time reduced to 1.5. Meaning it is easier to sw: D. And with less cc, also more powerfull. The 12 sec cd would be to op. I suggest a 30 second cd with glyph. I had intent to go shadow anyway.

[Missclick]

the new holy fire glyph will allows us to shadow word death thing still but instead it will be holy fire

[Warstar]

Personally I wish that healing priests had an interrupt. Every class has some sort of a cast interrupt on all specs except for priests. Resto druids if need be cause spec into fae silence and bear form faerie fire someone.

The panda rare's in pandaria have been all but impossible for me to kill on my priest (disc/holy specs) for example since I have no interrupt and they can heal to pretty much full. Even at 570 ilv I can eventually kill them after like a 5 minute fight. It's aggravating since normal DPS classes can kill them relatively easily with all of a 460 ilv since they have an interrupt.

Plus it's nice on other healing classes to be able to interrupt stuff in a 5 man/raid since no one else does and fully prevent damage rather than having to heal it. Really we have our fear and that's it and if something is immune to fear we're screwed.

I don't see why people like paladins, monks or shaman all have interrupts in all specs yet priests are penalized and don't get silence like shadow does or even just a regular interrupt. Holy/Disc priests are the only specs in the game that have no way to interrupt at all outside of the blood elf racial and even that only works pve and doesn't work pvp.

[apepi]

Personally I wish that healing priests had an interrupt. Every class has some sort of a cast interrupt on all specs except for priests. Resto druids if need be cause spec into fae silence and bear form faerie fire someone.

The panda rare's in pandaria have been all but impossible for me to kill on my priest (disc/holy specs) for example since I have no interrupt and they can heal to pretty much full. Even at 570 ilv I can eventually kill them after like a 5 minute fight. It's aggravating since normal DPS classes can kill them relatively easily with all of a 460 ilv since they have an interrupt.

Plus it's nice on other healing classes to be able to interrupt stuff in a 5 man/raid since no one else does and fully prevent damage rather than having to heal it. Really we have our fear and that's it and if something is immune to fear we're screwed.

I don't see why people like paladins, monks or shaman all have interrupts in all specs yet priests are penalized and don't get silence like shadow does or even just a regular interrupt. Holy/Disc priests are the only specs in the game that have no way to interrupt at all outside of the blood elf racial and even that only works pve and doesn't work pvp.

But priest is the only healing spec that is not melee. Pretty much only melee classes generally have silences.

[Nurasu]

But priest is the only healing spec that is not melee. Pretty much only melee classes generally have silences.

Resto shamans are not melee at all and have one of the best interrupts in the game =/

[Warstar]

But priest is the only healing spec that is not melee. Pretty much only melee classes generally have silences.

Only monks are "melee" healers and only then sometimes. Just cause a paladin has a ret spec doesn't mean they're a "melee healer". And as Nyumetsu said shaman have windshear a resto and elemental which is a ranged silence and strong as hell.

It's just stupid that out of 34 specs in the game only 3 don't have a built in interrupt and 1 (resto druids) can glyph into a gimmick one leaving 2 out of 34 specs in the game with no interrupt both of those being a healing priest.

[Cerbz]

For Healing priests in PVP I'd be a little more upset that you don't have SWD anymore. No more CC break for you guys.

You don't get SWD anymore(as you shouldn't), but you can still break CC:

https://twitter.com/Celestalon/statu...79506455773184

[Bitethe]

But priest is the only healing spec that is not melee. Pretty much only melee classes generally have silences.

Lol, what?

[Torch068]

An obvious fix is for them to re-work the currently almost useless Shackle Undead into simply "Shackle" and allow it to work on everything Hex/Repent can work on.