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    Is Blizzard way over their heads with change in WoD?

    After reading all the 6.0 patch changes, they are removing and changing a lot of things. Are they over their head in change?

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    Explain what you mean by "over their head in change"?

    To me, to be "in over your head" means you're doing something you don't understand completely.

    If that's what you're getting at I can't see them making changes like this just for the fun of it, there must have been a reason or else why would they have bothered? It's more effort for them to change these things than it is to keep things the same.
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    The playerbase has been desiring this for years and when it's finally here, everyone wants to grab a pitchfork. Ridiculous. This community is disgustingly toxic.
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    Nah. Many small changes, shouldnt put them over their head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkyjunky View Post
    Nah. Many small changes, shouldnt put them over their head.
    Many small changes? The math of the game has changed completely. Completely.

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    They should never of added the bloat in the first place.

    The thing is though, that although some of these things may look like nerfs, you will be buffed in other ways. The idea was to remove a lot of stuff that made the game a tad unfair, for instance Cooldown stacking, but buff sustained damage (like the levelling perks).

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    "Quick Ghostcrawler's gone, lets change everything!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    They should never of added the bloat in the first place.

    The thing is though, that although some of these things may look like nerfs, you will be buffed in other ways. The idea was to remove a lot of stuff that made the game a tad unfair, for instance Cooldown stacking, but buff sustained damage (like the levelling perks).
    It's not about buffing or nerfing at this point. They will need to test the crap out of this to get back to a proper balance.

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    Change is good and keeps things fresh.

    I can't imagine learning to play a mage 9 years ago and having the exact same playstyle today, where's the fun in that?

    I don't think they're in over their heads though, they're experienced enough and have the influence to basically dictate the MMO market. However, a lot of these changes will likely see iterations as we go along. This is major sweep of changes, but there's going to be plenty of balancing, retuning, finetuning etc etc.

    I am, and have been since WoD was announced, excited and stoked about this new expansion.
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    I don't see any problem the amount of changes; sure, there will be issues, but there are always issues. I read the notes but don't really take anything to heart as it will change 10000 times before it goes live.

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    I like most of the changes so far. I'm torn about the ability pruning though. On one hand, I like that they're making some specs feel more unique and differentiated. On the other hand, I dislike that they're removing/limiting some iconic abilities for some of the classes.

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    Of course they aren't over their head, they completely remade the game in one expansion to work with 4 buttons so they can port it to the Xbox One and PS4.

    Now if you are asking if all these changes will explode in their face, maybe. Its a lot of rework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xTH3ROCK View Post
    After reading all the 6.0 patch changes, they are removing and changing a lot of things. Are they over their head in change?
    in a word yes
    4-3-14 - RIP iconic class abilities since vanilla and RIP wow subs. The day millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
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    Fun- has been removed

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    In a word no

    In more words: This is nothing significantly more than what they're doing for every expansion. Yeah, the changes are a bit more across the board but still they're not really making any more significant changes than they have for other expansions, so aside from the usual "s**t happens" this shouldn't be anything special for Blizz.

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    They've explained everything and it seems pretty justified. Every expansion has brought major changes, WoD's changes pale in comparison to other expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briga View Post
    "Quick Ghostcrawler's gone, lets change everything!"
    Somehow i feel this plays a small part. Still i Think its its good that they are removing this much but getting to experience it ourselves will tell if it was a success or not

    People screaming no and panicing are just people with that kind of personality, afraid of change. It has Always been this way for every expansion(Multiple WTF threads on mmo champ)

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    No. They are doing things that needed to be done.

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    The only one im slightly worried about are these "new" stats replacing the old ones. They seem like D3 stats, AoE as a stat (lol whut?). But at the same time this seems like a good change since one of my biggest complaints is how some dps classes are viable aoe classes (specs) but other just suck. Maybe suck AoE classes can now just get a set of gear that makes their AoE competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Briga View Post
    "Quick Ghostcrawler's gone, lets change everything!"
    Well you say this in jest, but there seems to be some truth behind this. Notice the changes to casters and how they want to make melee viable again. WOULD NEVER HAPPEN UNDER GHOSTCRAWLERS WATCH!!!1!!1

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    There are tons of good and tons of bad. The army of the dead being given to blood dks instead of unholy dks is just very confusing. I don't understand why they are removing key spells that make hunters iconic. Monk changes were good though. Also with professions except the ability to learn glyphs automatically, no idea whats going on with their thinking with Inscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Many small changes? The math of the game has changed completely. Completely.
    Nope. In fact, it didn't change at all. The numbers changed, that's all.

    Math isn't actually about numbers. Math is about what you do with those numbers.
    Changing the math is hard. Changing the numbers is trivial.

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    I think we are in over our head trying to understand the new WoW base on the patch notes! I love most of the changes finally Blizzard doing some needed cleaning!

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