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And stat conversion is available to everyone in wod. So this doesn't matter. And it's far away from saying the stats you prefer are the same for tanking and doing damage in gladi stance.
Now, if they allowed it to be used in combat, THEN it would overpowered, especially since warriors won't even have to warrior about changing gear or rotating talent points to do it right like feral did (And we couldn't change gear in combat or rotate our talent points and were not 100% unless we did both) . But that doesn't change the fact they are effectively giving warriors tri-spec while giving everyone else the middle finger in this regard.
Like I said, they can give them Gladiator SPEC and most would be just fine with it, but not Gladiator STANCE in Prot Spec, that is crossing lines.
What Warriors are getting is like if they merged Balance and Restoration druids and gave them both forms but you could only shift between them when out of combat (But still have the root break) and had the same stat priorities.
Can you imagine the crying if that happened?
If this was Gladiator SPEC this wouldn't be an issue, the fact of the matter is they are giving them DPS spec baked into Tank spec with 100% shared gear that is the issue.
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It is 2 specs in one that gives them tri-spec.
Let me ask you: Do you want to have another melee spec as druid? If your answer is no then stop discussing this. It's the same for Locks tanking glyph. Nobody cried omg give them a fourth spec instead of this glyph. And druids are the only class having 4 specs while every other class has only 3 ... do other classes complain about it?
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Put differently, if assuming a different role in one spec is like having access to tri-spec, then hunters, rogues, mages, and warlocks only have one spec, because their role never changes regardless of spec. Feel free to object to the idea of prot DPS happening outside of a fourth spec (I don't), but you can't base it on the idea that it amounts to tri-spec.
Just think of it like this, at level 100, warriors have 3 DPS specs and 1 tanking spec to choose from.
Druids currently have 2 DPS specs, 1 healing spec, and 1 tanking spec to choose from.
The only thing warriors get over druids? The save in time time to respec your role at the trainer, thats it. They will not be doing DPS in prot, with the talent, in tanking gear. They would want a crit neck, not a dodge neck, they would want to focus on strength over stamina. They would need their own gear set to be considered for a DPS spot in raids, with the extra benefit of a extra prot warrior tank helping out with, still sub optimal dps, on fights that dont need him to tank.
How about this, give up your flying form and travel form, then I guess you can have your change your role from DPS to tank button at the cost of 1 dust & a change in gear. What this essentially does is that it gives warriors flavor, all they really gain for their new dps is a saved trip to the trainer.
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You keep mention dodge, the dodge stat is gone from gear.
Its awesome because I've always wanted to be a dps with a shield; ever since Wrath where I used to oneshot kids with my shield slams...
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And to answer your question, I wouldn't mind a new DPS spec and in the heart of this one, I would say give a level 100 talent for Guardian druids to turn their Bear into a rage using DPS. Then our bear form can be 2 specs in one as well.
NOW they use the same gear but different specs (which is what we suggest for warriors) before that, they had to use dual spec as there were too many talents to get them all and do it viably and before that we had to gear different and even in TBC, you had to spec different to DPS at endgame which cost you tanking talents.Yeah i can ... all those owl throwing in some cross healing into the raid will start to cry. Cats and Bears are working with the same gear too. We don't know anything about how gearing will work in wod. BUT you do complain about it right now. Defensive Stats will go away. So yeah prot warriors will be using the same off gear druids use since classic. But image for tanking mastery is the best stat to get. But for going dps in gladi stance its crit or maybe even haste.
And they are adding your crit block chance into your crit chance so they will still be DPSing in Tank gear, they won't be changing to DPS offsets like druids did with tanking offsets in the past.
Read the talent before commenting on it.
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As a gladiator warrior, they are assuming a totally different role that is opposite what the intended role is. It is it's own spec they are trying to roll into another.