WWE and the Future of Wrestlemania

[Romire]

Well, Taker lost to part timer Brock Lesner which was a total Bullshit match anyways.

Daniel Bryan wins the biggest Miracle ever and becomes champ

So now the question remains, What happens with Wrestlemaina without the Undertaker and his streak?

[Guyviroth]

Just for you;

http://huzlers.com/undertaker-losing...pt-will-fired/

[Bathory]

I think it was a power play by WWE to remain relevant and to reengage with those who may have been fans before, but have since left the WWE's fanbase. To have Undertaker lose to Lesnar of all people? He's such a polarizing character given his history. What gets people talking more than controversy? If UT won, it would have been "yeah, 22-0, congrats UT" The End. But with Lesnar winning it's "Whoa!? What!? How!? Did you guys hear!? Now I HAVE to watch and see what happens next"

I haven't watched wrestling in almost ten years, but here I am, looking it up. Looking for info on what happened. Curious to watch the match and to see the backlash from Lesnar's win/Undertaker's defeat.

[Sinndra]

Just for you;

http://huzlers.com/undertaker-losing...pt-will-fired/

wow.. just wow. for the first time since the beginning of the "PG Era" i want to watch tomorrow to see what/if anything gets said on RAW. lol

[badzerath]

I think it was a power play by WWE to remain relevant and to reengage with those who may have been fans before, but have since left the WWE's fanbase. To have Undertaker lose to Lesnar of all people; he's such a polarizing character given his history.

I haven't watched wrestling in almost ten years, but here I am, looking it up. Looking for info on what happened. Curious to watch the match and to see the backlash from Lesnar's win/Undertaker's defeat.

I used to watch as a kid in the 90's and wrestling became irrelevant when it went PG. The last time I watched raw was spring 2010 and I had to take a bath to wash the stupid off.

It's always been fake but at least the writing and characters had some great moments back in the day. Now, being designed to be kid approved but somehow be violent in nature......it just doesn't work and is a shame to see how far it has fallen.

Honestly, I could not care less about what happened at WM. And to hear "the streak" ended to Lesnar is laughable and insulting to legends that faced Taker years ago.

Makes me glad to be done with it.

[starkey]

I havent watched wrestling since attitude era, if u want sources goto any pro wrestling news site, if its true or not they will know.

Id go out on a limb here and and say that's probably UT last match

[badzerath]

wow.. just wow. for the first time since the beginning of the "PG Era" i want to watch tomorrow to see what/if anything gets said on RAW. lol

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=huzlers.com




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[Icaras]

Um....given that Vince controls the script, thus the refs, I seriously doubt Lesnar could pull off a victory if Vince really didn't want it. You're telling me he was SOOOOO shocked that he forgot to say to a ref "slow count that, pretend taker kicked out if u have too, you know what to do to ensure my script goes through". Taker is a complete company man, Lesnar would have to put a serious hurt on him to really make him lie down if Vince didn't want it. (I also doubt the boys in back would appreciate Lesnar screwing over Taker. While I don't like the guy myself, he has serious respect in the WWE locker room. more so than Lesnar could ever hope to have)

Like others have said, Takers streak was so long running and so expected it was becoming pathetic "Taker match? Oh that fool can barely move yet he'll prolly win. That BS streak nonsense, lol. I don't even have to watch to know. Piss break!" if people weren't reacting that way, they've seriously been living under a rock since the Taker's hey day.

Hell, I'm surprised the guy is still going, he could barely move 10 years ago, I shudder to think how badly he'd have to be carried to pull of a mania match now >.<;


Edit: OMG they dragged Road Dogg (hate him so much) and Billy Gunn (Hate him too) out of retirement for this mania? Wow, thats.....thats kinda sad. Mind you, I always hated the attitude era, (I was more of WCW kinda fan) so I guess I biased against those two.

[Zoma]

Like others have said, Takers streak was so long running and so expected it was becoming pathetic "Taker match? Oh that fool can barely move yet he'll prolly win. That BS streak nonsense, lol. I don't even have to watch to know. Piss break!" if people weren't reacting that way, they've seriously been living under a rock since the Taker's hey day.

Hell, I'm surprised the guy is still going, he could barely move 10 years ago, I shudder to think how badly he'd have to be carried to pull of a mania match now >.<;

I get the feeling you didn't see Wrestlemania 25-29. In each of those, the Undertaker match was either Match of the Year, or at least in contention.

[Icaras]

No I haven't, I lost interest in WWE prolly 6 or 7 years ago (I blame myself for reading up too much on backstage stuff and I became jaded with wrestling. I also hated John Cena's rapper persona and he was being pushed to the moon at the time, which really turned me off.

The nail in the coffin was my local casino stopped screening RAW (They used to show it at the sports bar, but stopped when RAW moved from a sports channel to an entertainment channel). I found I just didn't enjoy watching (WWE) at home by myself, unlike at the casino where there were heaps of people around. Plus I think all the WCW guys I liked had been phased out by then, apart from Booker T, and I've never liked WWEs original characters much. WCW R.I.P )

[TJ]

I haven't watched wrestling in almost ten years, but here I am, looking it up. Looking for info on what happened. Curious to watch the match and to see the backlash from Lesnar's win/Undertaker's defeat.

I have to agree. I was a HUGE wrestling fan back in the day, colossal, loved it and to this day it is one of the best things I've ever watched. But I stopped watching it a long time ago and here I am reading about WM 30 and how the Undertaker lost his streak. I mean people are going crazy over it, something to keep people talking at least :P

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No I haven't, I lost interest in WWE prolly 6 or 7 years ago (I blame myself for reading up too much on backstage stuff and I became jaded with wrestling. I also hated John Cena's rapper persona and he was being pushed to the moon at the time, which really turned me off.

The nail in the coffin was my local casino stopped screening RAW (They used to show it at the sports bar, but stopped when RAW moved from a sports channel to an entertainment channel). I found I just didn't enjoy watching (WWE) at home by myself, unlike at the casino where there were heaps of people around. Plus I think all the WCW guys I liked had been phased out by then, apart from Booker T, and I've never liked WWEs original characters much. WCW R.I.P )

I lost interest when my favourite characters started retiring/leaving, it just didn't feel the same since they were irreplaceable and the new ones were obviously nowhere near to them. I also dislike the PG rating, wrestling was awesome when it was violent and the stars were dedicated to giving a good performance (Mick Foley getting battered pretty much every match, blood etc), people will probably say it's bad of me to like seeing people get hurt or w/e but it made good entertainment. Wrestling is a thing of the past for me, but I always like to remember the days when I watched it every time I could and followed it religiously, it was ridiculously good.
Oh and WWF fo lyfe ;D

[Wildtree]

Just for you;

http://huzlers.com/undertaker-losing...pt-will-fired/

huzlers, really? LMAO....

Regarding the OP question....
As brutal as it is.... WM will live on, and from my personal view, it won't be too hard to beat the quality of WM30.
All in all I found it a rather disappointing show this time.
I honestly believe the WWE trapped itself with the opener.
Hulkster is cool, there's no doubt. But then Austin AND on top the Rock. That was really an epic opener moment. The awesome part was Hogans faux pax with the Silverdome. Was hilarious how they all 3 turned that blooper into a positive. Yet, with those 3 power houses in the ring, the expectations sky rocketed.
What followed didn't live up..

Bryan vs Tripe H was meh.... They could have done more and a lot better.
The only excitement from this was the after match actions from the authority.

The Andre the Giant bash sucked literally.

Zero outside interferences from either heels or baby faces throughout the whole event, except for the authority in the very end... I loved how that backfired, and the crowd broke out chanting for CM Punk lol

All in all a rather mediocre WM, and Taker losing for no reason whatsoever didn't exactly help either.
I too am convinced that this was not a usual, and probably not as planned going match.

Anyhow, WM will go on...
There are 2 hot irons that are still in the fire...
For once there's CM Punk... Will he return, what is going on?
The rumors once again didn't hold any water.. He did not show up. AJ defending her title doesn't put the speculations to rest either, that rather keeps them alive.
I admit, I thought she will lose the title, and then she too can leave and have a great life together with her fiancee Phil Brooks aka CM Punk.
For now, Punk remains on the table for a return at some point..

The other hot iron....... Sting.
When will we get to see him? Tonight? Next week? So many questions..
And one thing is clear now since last night.. The dream match Taker vs Sting at Wrestlemania with the Streak on the line.... That dream is over.
But Sting does for sure have enough iconic power to raise the value and expectations for WM 31.

Further more, I think in years time, Cesaro will be more built up. Eventually he's got to get out of the tag team mash up.
Roman Reigns is a power house as well, and he seem to have all what it needs to have to be a big one.

Another one... A one time thing, yet it would be an epic thing nonetheless...
Goldberg.. He's already expressed how he would consider one more run, if the circumstances (probably the contract) are right.

Current wrestlers that should get pushed by the WWE..
Ziggler, Ryback, R-Truth.
Those guys are currently brutally underused, and they need to bring them up the card.

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I also dislike the PG rating
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Oh and WWF fo lyfe ;D

I cannot agree more on that aspect.
I've watched the WWE Hall of Fame introduction ceremony on the WWE Network. I was like WTF when they blended out some of the things the people said there.
I mean.. This is not public TV. This is PPV at the best.. There's no bleeping on PPV stuff.. But then, it got to me. Their fan base has children too.
(ironically there were lots of children in the crowd too. Some of the wrestlers brought their kids or grand kids along).
Regarding WWF.... The Ultimate Warrior produced that blooper during his speech. Of course it too got blanked out, when he said World Wrestling Federation instead of Entertainment.. And he addressed it right away.. Advocating how the F needs to be back in the name lol
I believe it was a dick move from the WWF to contest that acronym. After all, it isn't remotely related...
World Wildlife Fund
World Wrestling Federation.
so different.. Sometimes court decisions make no sense.

[Skippy88]

I think the future will be just fine.

First you have a great wrestler in Daniel Bryan. Hopefully, creative can get behind him this time but I do fear they won't. While a lot of the upper tier guys have become stale I think they have a lot of promising guys coming up with The Shield, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, Big E. etc. They just need to get them up to that upper tier and stop depending on guys who show up once a year and then disappear. I was a bit surprised UT lost but more due to who he lost to not the fact he lost. Besides some of the crowd reactions where hilarious.

[DisposableHero]

All in all a rather mediocre WM, and Taker losing for no reason whatsoever didn't exactly help either.
I too am convinced that this was not a usual, and probably not as planned going match.

I have to disagree here. You can argue to the end of time that giving the streak to Lesner was the wrong move and I'd be right there with you. You can't argue the impact it had though. 75,000 people in stunned, shocked, abject silence for minutes and millions more at home asking themselves "did that really just happen?".

I think somewhere between WM29 and 30 Mark Calaway told WWE his body couldn't take it anymore and he was done after WM30. I think they struggled mightily to find a real opponent for him and Lesner is what they could muster in time, and once they had that booked there options were:
1) do what everyone thinks is going to happen and then have to retire the undertaker at 22-0 and have to reconcile "I am the immortal dead man, but my body can't take it anymore"
2) shock the whole world and have Lesner actually win

And they chose the option with a bigger impact, and to ultimately make the undertaker's last match and WM30 as memorable as possible.

[Heathy]

I used to enjoy watching it with my friend during the 90's who was and still is very into it, he buys everything wrestling, I can probably watch an event and be entertained by it, but as far as a sport is concerned, deciding who wins before hand completely removes the sportsmanship from it, so its not a competition just a stage play.

it would be like me challenging someone to a game of chess and saying 'well ill just move pieces at random and you take them'

in other words its hard to be shocked by something that was pre-determined, if the UT had managed to hold his successes legitimately for that many years then lost legitimately that would be something.

[Warlord Booty]

Bryan is so annoying. That Jon Uso guy is funny though. I watch the Diva's show all the time, I don't think the Diva's even partook in WM? Or just AJ vs the fat one?

[Drungan]

I have to ask as somone from Denmark that realy dont understand wrestling.

Do you watch it like ... a TV serie ? i mean for the drama and *story* or is there somthing more ? beside the *fights* ofc.

Dont think we got any tv channels here even on cable that shows it so i cant say i know anything about it beside the cliche things from movies and tv shows.

[Darkpoison324]

its all fake nothing good about it save money fine a new hobby that matter.

your welcome for the life advice

[Naxere]

Kinda disappointed The Undertaker lost to a part-timer and also disappointed that Bray Wyatt lost. I would've liked to have seen an Undertaker-Wyatt match at the next Wrestlemania with 'Taker passing the torch to Wyatt instead.