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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I'm literally a scientist. So yeah, it actually does. I appreciate the compliment though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    It's government attempting to define what are the legitimate inputs into the wage determination process. And you damn well know that.
    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.
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    What's the world coming to where a guy can't even buy what he needs to stretch his own butthole without the government getting involved?
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    I bet Im throwing off the statistics here. I'm willing to undercut every other woman in a GIS job to get a job!
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    There is no pay gap in the way that you think. You can't just take the average pay of women and compare it to the average pay of men and claim that that proves a pay gap. Men prefer types of jobs that tend to pay more (tend to be non-social jobs) while women prefer types of jobs that pay less (tend to be social jobs).

    I just love how people say "Pay gap!" and then bash republicans for not supporting a bill to diminish the alleged 'pay gap' without even referencing what the pay gap even is or refers to. The article itself doesn't even reference what it means by pay gap. Absolutely pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    The middle class is doing okay.. For now that is. Since the middle class too has an income decrease.
    The problem to worry about is the lower class.. The gap to the middle class gets ever wider. And that class gets ever bigger. It's not that far away from the lower class making up for 50%..
    On a macro scale, the middle class aren't doing okay in terms of growth in purchasing power.

    The post was more to pointing out an inconvenient irony. Whereas democrats continue to assert these truths about the "middle class", the policies they sell for the most part do almost nothing to improve the situation of the people who actually comprise of the middle class.

    At least not directly.
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    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.
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    What's the world coming to where a guy can't even buy what he needs to stretch his own butthole without the government getting involved?
    ^^A very compact one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzoman20 View Post
    On a macro scale, the middle class aren't doing okay in terms of growth in purchasing power.

    The post was more to pointing out an inconvenient irony. Whereas democrats continue to assert these truths about the "middle class", the policies they sell for the most part do almost nothing to improve the situation of the people who actually comprise of the middle class.

    At least not directly.
    Do they even help indirectly, either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoaric View Post
    Do they even help indirectly, either?
    That's a hard universal to argue tbh.

    Since my assessment revolves around that the policies intent And not what they could otherwise do.
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    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    What's the world coming to where a guy can't even buy what he needs to stretch his own butthole without the government getting involved?
    ^^A very compact one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexkeren View Post
    Why when men already get paternity leave?
    Not in most of the USA. Paid paternity leave only exists in California and New Jersey. The rest of the USA only gets 12 weeks unpaid paternity leave, and if you think most new fathers can afford to take that, the DEA would like to have a word with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Obviously the solution is for women to stop having babies. Mandatory abortions for all!

    The republicans will vote against a cure for cancer if Obama comes out for it.
    You know, I wonder if that really would be the case. It's kind of crazy, because there's so much room to screw over that party because of someone's inability to work together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conspicuous Cultist View Post
    You know, I wonder if that really would be the case. It's kind of crazy, because there's so much room to screw over that party because of someone's inability to work together.

    "I want to help bring America forward and find ourselves liberated from the tyranny of cancer."

    "Obummer once against wasting your tax dollars."
    Having a cure for cancer will actually negatively affect the US economy.

    Because in today's world, money is worth more than people.

    *looks back in history* Nevermind..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    There is no pay gap in the way that you think. You can't just take the average pay of women and compare it to the average pay of men and claim that that proves a pay gap. Men prefer types of jobs that tend to pay more (tend to be non-social jobs) while women prefer types of jobs that pay less (tend to be social jobs).

    I just love how people say "Pay gap!" and then bash republicans for not supporting a bill to diminish the alleged 'pay gap' without even referencing what the pay gap even is or refers to. The article itself doesn't even reference what it means by pay gap. Absolutely pathetic.
    The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.
    If I am reading this correctly, that is contrary to literally everything I have read or just assuming those 77 percent numbers take that into consideration, which once again everything I have read previously and today generally refute. (The work history portion, assuming <risky business I know> that your taking work history as in prior experience and current experience.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.
    Where exactly is this information? Also, why does it have to automatically indicate sexism rather than the actual common differences between men and women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    Equal pay for equal work. Nothing wrong with that. People who think there is a war on women are delusional. Forced equality is never good.
    Yeah, things were so much better before the Civil Rights Act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Yeah, things were so much better before the Civil Rights Act.
    That's a red herring I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    Where exactly is this information? Also, why does it have to automatically indicate sexism rather than the actual common differences between men and women?
    It implies sexism because it happens in places dominated by women such as nursing, secretaries and teachers.

    You're welcome to google the studies yourself (some of them are public, some aren't, so I really can't give you the ones I read which aren't), I'm only relaying what I learned from my studies on the subject several years ago (and no, things to not change that quickly over a few years).

    Yes, across the board women make on average less than men, but in some jobs women are paid more, or pretty darn equally =/-5%, which makes the average pay gap different and lack meaning in comparison to the specific pay gaps in specific fields and professions.
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    I'll support this bill when splitting the bill becomes the social norm on a date.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    It implies sexism because it happens in places dominated by women such as nursing, secretaries and teachers.

    You're welcome to google the studies yourself (some of them are public, some aren't, so I really can't give you the ones I read which aren't), I'm only relaying what I learned from my studies on the subject several years ago (and no, things to not change that quickly over a few years).

    Yes, across the board women make on average less than men, but in some jobs women are paid more, or pretty darn equally =/-5%, which makes the average pay gap different and lack meaning in comparison to the specific pay gaps in specific fields and professions.
    That's not how it works. If you make a claim, then you provide the evidence. You can't just say "Look it up yourself" and then act as if that proves something.

    I also don't understand why the jobs being female dominant somehow implies sexism more than male dominant jobs. Just because somebody said so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene.
    Isn't it funny how all unequal outcomes seem to benefit white men? What a crazy coincidence!

    That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.
    Only if you consider making misogynists butthurt (which you seem to).
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