Senate Republicans Vote Down Bill on Equal Pay

[Itisamuh]

Equal pay for equal work. Nothing wrong with that. People who think there is a war on women are delusional. Forced equality is never good.

[Spectral]

And even if every Scientist voted Democrat, that doesn't prove anything. It doesn't make "you" as intelligent or informed as they are nor does it justify how you came to a conclusion on an issue.

I'm literally a scientist. So yeah, it actually does. I appreciate the compliment though!

[Wildtree]

And how does increased social programs (for the poorest americans), A raise in the minimum wage (for the poorest americans) help close the income gap between the middle class, (whose salaries exceed the minimum wage already and aren't eligible for social programs) and the richest that you despise so much?

The middle class is doing okay.. For now that is. Since the middle class too has an income decrease.
The problem to worry about is the lower class.. The gap to the middle class gets ever wider. And that class gets ever bigger. It's not that far away from the lower class making up for 50%..

[Wildtree]

I'm literally a scientist. So yeah, it actually does. I appreciate the compliment though!

touche......

[Spectral]

It's government attempting to define what are the legitimate inputs into the wage determination process. And you damn well know that.

Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.

[THE Bigzoman]

Hey man, if the outcomes across all race and gender demographics aren't exactly the same, it's clearly a result of discrimination and the government obviously has to intervene. That will have no negative consequences at all of course. Because reasons.

My new signature. Thanks!

[Crissi]

I bet Im throwing off the statistics here. I'm willing to undercut every other woman in a GIS job to get a job!

[spinner981]

There is no pay gap in the way that you think. You can't just take the average pay of women and compare it to the average pay of men and claim that that proves a pay gap. Men prefer types of jobs that tend to pay more (tend to be non-social jobs) while women prefer types of jobs that pay less (tend to be social jobs).

I just love how people say "Pay gap!" and then bash republicans for not supporting a bill to diminish the alleged 'pay gap' without even referencing what the pay gap even is or refers to. The article itself doesn't even reference what it means by pay gap. Absolutely pathetic.

[THE Bigzoman]

The middle class is doing okay.. For now that is. Since the middle class too has an income decrease.
The problem to worry about is the lower class.. The gap to the middle class gets ever wider. And that class gets ever bigger. It's not that far away from the lower class making up for 50%..

On a macro scale, the middle class aren't doing okay in terms of growth in purchasing power.

The post was more to pointing out an inconvenient irony. Whereas democrats continue to assert these truths about the "middle class", the policies they sell for the most part do almost nothing to improve the situation of the people who actually comprise of the middle class.

At least not directly.

[Zoaric]

On a macro scale, the middle class aren't doing okay in terms of growth in purchasing power.

The post was more to pointing out an inconvenient irony. Whereas democrats continue to assert these truths about the "middle class", the policies they sell for the most part do almost nothing to improve the situation of the people who actually comprise of the middle class.

At least not directly.

Do they even help indirectly, either?

[THE Bigzoman]

Do they even help indirectly, either?

That's a hard universal to argue tbh.

Since my assessment revolves around that the policies intent And not what they could otherwise do.

[Masark]

Why when men already get paternity leave?

Not in most of the USA. Paid paternity leave only exists in California and New Jersey. The rest of the USA only gets 12 weeks unpaid paternity leave, and if you think most new fathers can afford to take that, the DEA would like to have a word with you.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

Obviously the solution is for women to stop having babies. Mandatory abortions for all!

The republicans will vote against a cure for cancer if Obama comes out for it.

You know, I wonder if that really would be the case. It's kind of crazy, because there's so much room to screw over that party because of someone's inability to work together.

"I want to help bring America forward and find ourselves liberated from the tyranny of cancer."

"Obummer once against wasting your tax dollars."

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You know, I wonder if that really would be the case. It's kind of crazy, because there's so much room to screw over that party because of someone's inability to work together.

"I want to help bring America forward and find ourselves liberated from the tyranny of cancer."

"Obummer once against wasting your tax dollars."

Having a cure for cancer will actually negatively affect the US economy.

Because in today's world, money is worth more than people.

*looks back in history* Nevermind..

[Sunseeker]

There is no pay gap in the way that you think. You can't just take the average pay of women and compare it to the average pay of men and claim that that proves a pay gap. Men prefer types of jobs that tend to pay more (tend to be non-social jobs) while women prefer types of jobs that pay less (tend to be social jobs).

I just love how people say "Pay gap!" and then bash republicans for not supporting a bill to diminish the alleged 'pay gap' without even referencing what the pay gap even is or refers to. The article itself doesn't even reference what it means by pay gap. Absolutely pathetic.

The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.

[theostrichsays]

The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.

If I am reading this correctly, that is contrary to literally everything I have read or just assuming those 77 percent numbers take that into consideration, which once again everything I have read previously and today generally refute. (The work history portion, assuming <risky business I know> that your taking work history as in prior experience and current experience.)

[spinner981]

The pay gap is not considered across the board. The pay gap is considered between men and women in the same profession, with a similar amount of work history.

Where exactly is this information? Also, why does it have to automatically indicate sexism rather than the actual common differences between men and women?

[Zython]

Equal pay for equal work. Nothing wrong with that. People who think there is a war on women are delusional. Forced equality is never good.

Yeah, things were so much better before the Civil Rights Act.

[spinner981]

Yeah, things were so much better before the Civil Rights Act.

That's a red herring I believe.

[Sunseeker]

Where exactly is this information? Also, why does it have to automatically indicate sexism rather than the actual common differences between men and women?

It implies sexism because it happens in places dominated by women such as nursing, secretaries and teachers.

You're welcome to google the studies yourself (some of them are public, some aren't, so I really can't give you the ones I read which aren't), I'm only relaying what I learned from my studies on the subject several years ago (and no, things to not change that quickly over a few years).

Yes, across the board women make on average less than men, but in some jobs women are paid more, or pretty darn equally =/-5%, which makes the average pay gap different and lack meaning in comparison to the specific pay gaps in specific fields and professions.