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  1. #461
    the supreme court is set up in the constitution as the final arbiter over any case of federal or constitutional law.

    as someone who loves beating people over the head with the constitution, how are you arguing against the SCOTUS?

    The Supreme Court of the United States (first abbreviated as SCOTUS in 1879)[1] was established pursuant to Article III of the United States Constitution in 1789 as the highest federal court in the United States. It has ultimate (and largely discretionary) appellate jurisdiction over all federal courts and over state court cases involving issues of federal law, plus original jurisdiction over a small range of cases. In the legal system of the United States, the Supreme Court is the final interpreter of federal constitutional law, although it may only act within the context of a case in which it has jurisdiction.

  2. #462
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    The Nazi party was vehemently opposed to the democratically elected government of the Weimar Republic and was an ultra nationalistic organisation that gained power through civil violence and street battles. Its nationalism and virulent anti-Marxism and anti-Semitism drew support from disaffected Germans.

    I don't think you can separate the way he rose to power from what happened after. They're one cloth.
    The opposition to democratically elected federal government, ultra nationalist and virulent anti-Marxism, is exactly what I'm getting at. That's why I'm saying he wouldn't oppose the way he rise to power, but would the resulting dictatorship. The separation I'm pointing at, is how he rose to power, versus the dictatorship he installed.
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  3. #463
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Presupposes I'm taking you seriously.
    Oh so that's why you just said this

    Quote Originally Posted by Wells
    The court has ruled that you can restrict speech for public safety. Speech zones fall under that clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    the supreme court is set up in the constitution as the final arbiter over any case of federal or constitutional law.

    as someone who loves beating people over the head with the constitution, how are you arguing against the SCOTUS?
    Because SCOTUS is full of people that lie. The Constitution is full of words. Those do not lie.

  4. #464
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Oh so that's why you just said this
    If you really expected your bit about the sky to be a serious argument I'm sorry I just can't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

  5. #465
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Here's another one!
    so it says that congress can not pass a law that prevents the freedom to peaceably assemble, it however does not say that it can not limit peaceable assembly.

  6. #466
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    The difference is, to use his analogy, if they had jurisdiction over English definitions and were acting within their authority, then saying the sky was red is all it would take for the sky to be red, whether he likes it or not.
    It's more like,

    WAR IS PEACE
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

  7. #467
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    I'm praising the Governor of Nevada for protecting his people's rights. I'm not really doing anything past that.
    Not really... but, it is... Everything from the praise of the governor to the cases this is being related to, makes it quite clear what this is...
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  8. #468
    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    so it says that congress can not pass a law that prevents the freedom to peaceably assemble, it however does not say that it can not limit peaceable assembly.
    Look up the definition of the word "abridge".

  9. #469
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Source it.

    10 chars.
    I'll trust your ability to use google, thank you very much. It's all public documents.

    Edit: fine, because I'm not a dick, this one lays out the test for the time, place, manner thing. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/491/781/
    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    If anybody is thinking of buying me a gift I would much rather they just donate that money to charity instead.
    chicken kiev

  10. #470
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Because SCOTUS is full of people that lie. The Constitution is full of words. Those do not lie.
    you do realize that the constitution was written by people who not only lied, but were also burdened with hypocrisy?

  11. #471
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Not really... but, it is... Everything from the praise of the governor to the cases this is being related to, makes it quite clear what this is...
    Standing up for the rights of the people. That's exactly what this is. Come back to me once you leave conspiracy land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    you do realize that the constitution was written by people who not only lied, but were also burdened with hypocrisy?
    It doesn't matter. The words they put down do not lie. I could be a liar and write down the word, "Amazing" and the word amazing would mean amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    I'll trust your ability to use google, thank you very much. It's all public documents.
    Burden of proof falls on you, my friend.

  12. #472
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Look up the definition of the word "abridge".
    it isn't being abridged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    It's more like,

    WAR IS PEACE
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
    I already tried to explain to you how there are limitations built into rights by their very nature. You just stamped your feet and insisted they were inalienable, as though that somehow invalidates the ability to limit them. A little word of advice: A right is nothing more than a privilege that someone is both able and willing to defend for you. The word "inalienable" is nothing more than a feel good adjective, with no actual power or authority.

  14. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Because SCOTUS is full of people that lie. The Constitution is full of words. Those do not lie.
    Full of words that are obviously subjective. It's the whole point of SCOTUS...
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  15. #475
    Hey Therionn do you believe in state secrets?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

  16. #476
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Burden of proof falls on you, my friend.
    Burden of reading falls on you, my friend. (see my edit, above, I linked the fucking thing).
    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    If anybody is thinking of buying me a gift I would much rather they just donate that money to charity instead.
    chicken kiev

  17. #477
    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    it isn't being abridged.
    If a restriction is being imposed upon it (first amendment zone) then it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    A little word of advice: A right is nothing more than a privilege
    Are you being serious right now? For real, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    If a restriction is being imposed upon it (first amendment zone) then it is.
    And we're all clear that the OP's pic is just one of those joke ones, right?
    The less you know, the more you believe.


    Actually, Mr. Lennon, I CAN imagine a world with no hate, religion, war, or violence.
    I can also imagine attacking such a world, because they would never see it coming.

  19. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Full of words that are obviously subjective. It's the whole point of SCOTUS...
    Abridge is not subjective, it's pretty damn direct.

  20. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Standing up for the rights of the people. That's exactly what this is. Come back to me once you leave conspiracy land.
    What conspiracy? I'm saying that the issue is being related in a way that is more palpable than it is. I'm saying it's disingenuous and sensationalized, not conspiracy...
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