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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Standing up for the rights of the people. That's exactly what this is. Come back to me once you leave conspiracy land.
    What conspiracy? I'm saying that the issue is being related in a way that is more palpable than it is. I'm saying it's disingenuous and sensationalized, not conspiracy...
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
    Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And we're all clear that the OP's pic is just one of those joke ones, right?
    http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04...-intimidation/

    Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Abridge is not subjective, it's pretty damn direct.
    Peaceful is though...
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    A little word of advice: A right is nothing more than a privilege that someone is both able and willing to defend for you.
    A little bit of advice: you shouldn't talk about constitutional law in detail before you understand what you are talking about. Your statement above is patently false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    It's a practical expression of actual function.
    Look up the definition of these words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    That picture isn't in your link.

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    Therionn I'll ask again because you probably ignored it. Do you believe the state should be allowed to have secrets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    That picture isn't in your link.
    It doesn't matter if the picture is in my link. I was talking about first amendment zones and you were trying to play it off like they were some sort of joke. No they are real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Abridge is not subjective, it's pretty damn direct.
    does abridge mean to prevent in part or prevent in total? does the word abridge mean the same as it did 50/100/200 years ago?

    do you not feel these are reasonable questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    It doesn't matter if the picture is in my link. I was talking about first amendment zones and you were trying to play it off like they were some sort of joke. No they are real.
    And yet what you said makes no sense. The picture is not an example of a first amendment zone. Period.

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    Therionn I'll ask again because you probably ignored it. Do you believe the state should be allowed to have secrets?
    Nice try, but I'm not about to change the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    Nice try, but I'm not about to change the subject.
    Its not changing the subject. Answer the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    does abridge mean to prevent in part or prevent in total? does the word abridge mean the same as it did 50/100/200 years ago?

    do you not feel these are reasonable questions?
    abridge means to curtail. curtailing means this: reduce in extent or quantity; impose a restriction on.

    soooooo,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Its not changing the subject. Answer the question.
    It is, and no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    The difference is, to use his analogy, if they had jurisdiction over English definitions and were acting within their authority, then saying the sky was red is all it would take for the sky to be red, whether he likes it or not.
    Only they're more like meteorologists in this analogy, so saying the sky is red just makes them wrong.

    But it's a pretty bad analogy since the sky itself can be wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tojara View Post
    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therionn View Post
    abridge means to curtail. curtailing means this: reduce in extent or quantity; impose a restriction on.

    soooooo,

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    It is, and no
    If you think freedom of speech cannot be restricted in any way then you need to support the right of military offers to post nuclear codes on facebook or you're a fucking hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And yet what you said makes no sense. The picture is not an example of a first amendment zone. Period.
    I never said it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I'm not appealing to the construct of law.
    Are you appealing to making sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I'm not appealing to the construct of law.



    Practical: of or concerned with the actual doing or use of something rather than with theory and ideas.
    Expression: the process of making known one's thoughts or feelings.
    Actual: existing in fact; typically as contrasted with what was intended, expected, or believed
    Function: an activity or purpose natural to or intended for a person or thing.
    I meant look up the definition of unalienable, rights, and then privileges.

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    I demand my right to disclose troop movements in war time not be abridged, thanks Therionn!

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    It doesn't matter. The words they put down do not lie. I could be a liar and write down the word, "Amazing" and the word amazing would mean amazing.
    an anecdote from An Introduction to Poetry, from page 52..

    "And when Queen Anne, in a famous anecdote, called the just-completed Saint Paul's Cathedral 'awful, artificial, and amusing,' its architect, Sir Christopher Wren, was overwhelmed with joy and gratitude..."

    just something to muse over about the denotation of words.

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