Somewhat significant bug with SoO Amplification trinkets

[Brusalk]

Hey All,

I was perusing the WoW sub-reddit and came across this post today and I confirmed myself what the OP described. I made a demo video below demonstrating the bug, but a TL;DR: is that it looks like at least PBoI is only calculating it's contribution to your stats when it is equipped and only then. When the amount of Haste/Mastery/Spirit on your gear changes it's contribution isn't updated until it's re-equipped.

The workaround is just to re-equip the trinket every time your raw Haste/Mastery/Spirit stat amounts change due to your gear.



FYI!
-Brusalk

[Xorn]

Oh damn. I just tested this myself, and it does in fact behave this way.

I wonder if we should be re-equipping it after, say, the mastery raid buff.

Edit: Nope. Behaves just fine after buffing, but gear is still an issue.

[Avido77]

What's to stop you from picking up a second set of haste/mastery gear with no hit/exp and gemmed for straight mastery, equipping PBI, then switching into real dps gear? As long as PBI remains equipped you would keep the inflated haste and mastery values.

[Brusalk]

What's to stop you from picking up a second set of haste/mastery gear with no hit/exp and gemmed for straight mastery, equipping PBI, then switching into real dps gear? As long as PBI remains equipped you would keep the inflated haste and mastery values.

There isn't.

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Oh damn. I just tested this myself, and it does in fact behave this way.

I wonder if we should be re-equipping it after, say, the mastery raid buff.

Edit: Nope. Behaves just fine after buffing, but gear is still an issue.

I think the bug only happens with gear, but I could be wrong.

[xskarma]

There isn't.

Some people will definitely be cheesing their way to extra high parses when this gets broad attention on reddit and here on MMO-C. I remember people doing similar cheesy things with Demo mastery snapshotting for Meta in Cata, equipping the strangest stuff just to have a high snapshot. The Demo thing couldn't be helped, but I can definitely see Blizz fix this particular one.

[Deleted]

Some people will definitely be cheesing their way to extra high parses

Maybe, maybe not. I just tested this myself and even with equipping all my haste/mastery and doing full reforge I could only gain 1% mastery and 0.5% haste. I guess people could super try hard and make some insane sets with full regemming and their best gear etc.

Comparison screenshot for proofs:

i.imgur.com/pzuZTcW.png <-I'm not allowed to post links

Also the trinket updates if you zone into an instance so every time you wiped or logged out etc you would need to redo it all. I am also pretty sure this will get fixed within the next 48 hours. Blizz are pretty quick to stop this sort of thing.

[yoloswagginz]

I don't think any1s going to be exploiting this tbh. its such a small gain and by the time people actually have a gear set for this it'll be patched. It is good to know if you start swapping your gear around tho.

[Erikxtc]

There were posts about this way back when SoO was first introduced. I suppose after half a year of silence, this is a good PSA.

[Jessicka]

Fuck. I've not touched my HWF PBI since week 3 of the tier. This probably has something to do with them abandoning Amp as a stat for WoD though.

[Styxz]

I don't think any1s going to be exploiting this tbh. its such a small gain and by the time people actually have a gear set for this it'll be patched. It is good to know if you start swapping your gear around tho.

I'm sure this'll be exploited. The things ppl do in this game for a few % increase...

But like you say, it'll get patched.

[Deleted]

Fuck. I've not touched my HWF PBI since week 3 of the tier.

Don't worry it updates after you log out, die, or zone into an instance.

[Xorn]

Fuck. I've not touched my HWF PBI since week 3 of the tier. This probably has something to do with them abandoning Amp as a stat for WoD though.

I doubt it, as Amp as a stat only affected crit damage, and not the passive Haste/Mastery that the trinket provides

[Elapsed]

I have Heroic healing Amp trinket on my pally and this does work to some extent. I can equip my ret set (heavy haste and mastery) and then put my healing amp trinket on, before switching back to my holy set and gain quite a bit of secondary stats.

HOWEVER the moment you get a buff of any stat type (of the ones I just tried) the secondary stats all recalculate based off your currently equipped gear. I'm going to guess the moment you get a proc that increases your stats, you will lose the extra amp. But I didn't try that far

[Bonkura]

I didn't get much from it by testing on my Warlock (don't have enough gear to swap around). :<

Haste: 12876 -> 13179
Mastery: 19545 -> 19686

And yeah, receiving buffs like Blessing of Might resets it. Just tested it on my Paladin.

If you have double amp trinkets equipped, like DPS and healer amp trinkets, the stats get reset when you equip your normal trinket. In fact, going from only using BBoY, to equipping PBoI then from KTT to BBoY doesn't give you the stats from BBoY.

Sure you can do some fancy prepull equipset macros, but it can easily get messed up from external buffs. At least a Mastery buff, because multipliers dont change your actual rating. So BL, LMG etc doesn't affect this gear swapping method.

[yoloswagginz]

Sure you can do some fancy prepull equipset macros, but it can easily get messed up from external buffs. At least a Mastery buff, because multipliers dont change your actual rating. So BL, LMG etc doesn't affect this gear swapping method.

nope cuz that would reset the ICD

[Bonkura]

Hah true my bad

[Deleted]

OP did you discover this one your own or have you been in the elite section of ownedcore?

[Alyzyr]

OP did you discover this one your own or have you been in the elite section of ownedcore?

Hey All,

I was perusing the WoW sub-reddit and came across this post today.....

So no, he didn't discover this on his own

[Deleted]

I noticed this a month ago or soo, I put on the trinket first of all my gear and my mastery was many percent lower than usual. Had me figuring, and of course was that the reason!

[Jotaux]

I tested it on my shaman and it updates my stats properly, perhaps something to do with my passive mastery buff.