1. #1981
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildberry View Post
    If you want to yell at anyone for making Tyrande stupid, go bitch at the guys behind WCIII. Stackpole isn't any better, unless you think that Vol'jin: Shadows of the Horde (AKA "Forcing the fanbase to like Vol'jin: The book") is a work of literary genius.
    can we please let them make a book with a central main character without people coming to conspiracy theories that its some sort of plot to force people to fanboy the main character.

    Are they not allowed to have main characters? yeesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Personal opinion:

    Good direction for this story to take: Wrathion is manipulating everybody - by unleashing the Iron Horde he stands to win no matter what happens, either the Iron Horde is stronger and takes over Azeroth, thereby proving their mettle for facing the Burning Legion OR Azeroth bands together and finds the will and strength to defeat them, coming out of it stronger than before and more united. Either way, he wins. I like this because it makes Wrathion a complex character who does evil things for essentially good reasons. Also shows him as being a magnificent bastard and chessmaster, in TVTropes terms.

    Bad direction for this story to take: Wrathion really believes the Iron Horde will be superior and throws his lot in with them, and we have to fight him at the end. This sucks because it shows less vision than the first option, makes him a less interesting character and of course will result in him being another loot pinata for us to whack.
    If Wrathion goes full fucking Ozymandias level of manipulation I will fucking never question his quality of character, not that I ever had doubts to begin with.
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    100th page. Holy frak. I am curious if Golden kept an eye out.


    I wonder if Garrosh is going to redeem himself in the end. There has to be a reason why the Celestials were so... Agh.
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    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sett View Post
    100th page. Holy frak. I do wonder if Golden kept an eye out.


    I wonder if Garrosh is going to redeem himself in the end. There has to be a reason why the Celestials were so... Agh.
    Oh, she probably did, laughing all the way.

    Maybe. He could, theoretically try to stop something, then get gunned down.
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    You can't fight porn on the internet, you may as well declare war on something overwhelming like water on Earth's surface - or something ephemeral like "terror" (lol sorry, had to do it) - or something both overwhelming and ephemeral... like porn on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sett View Post
    100th page. Holy frak. I am curious if Golden kept an eye out.


    I wonder if Garrosh is going to redeem himself in the end. There has to be a reason why the Celestials were so... Agh.
    I have a feeling he will since Anduin... you know... saved his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoaric View Post
    Oh, she probably did, laughing all the way.

    Maybe. He could, theoretically try to stop something, then get gunned down.
    We've gone from Garrosh having tea, incest jokes about the Windrunners, time-rift craze, and totally throwing Godwin's law into the mix. It's quite the thread.


    He doesn't seem to care of Anduin's 'kindness'. We'll either have to wait and see or maybe get a better glimpse of it in the book.
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    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    can we please let them make a book with a central main character without people coming to conspiracy theories that its some sort of plot to force people to fanboy the main character.

    Are they not allowed to have main characters? yeesh.
    You'd have to be blind not to see that Shadows of the Horde was the most half-assed attempt at making Vol'jin seem "superkewl" in the eyes of the fanbase since they were getting ready to make him Warchief.
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    Seriously. Can this guy please be banned from the forums?
    Quote Originally Posted by JimPaladin View Post
    Could we just get this fucking clown a ban or something? Pretty please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sett View Post
    We've gone from Garrosh having tea, incest jokes about the Windrunners, time-rift craze, and totally throwing Godwin's law into the mix. It's quite the thread.


    He doesn't seem to care of Anduin's 'kindness'. We'll either have to wait and see or maybe get a better glimpse of it in the book.
    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sett View Post
    100th page. Holy frak. I am curious if Golden kept an eye out.


    I wonder if Garrosh is going to redeem himself in the end. There has to be a reason why the Celestials were so... Agh.
    Actually I tweeted her about this thread. She said she saw one at 26 pages. I replied back that it was up to 900 posts at the time and she was in shock.

    https://twitter.com/ChristieGolden/s...95119357440000

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    Quote Originally Posted by r03dz View Post
    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)
    Thanks for the thread r03dz, you are now immortalized in the form of skeleton horses.
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    Seriously. Can this guy please be banned from the forums?
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    Could we just get this fucking clown a ban or something? Pretty please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinalover View Post
    Actually I tweeted her about this thread. She said she saw one at 26 pages. I replied back that it was up to 900 posts at the time and she was in shock.

    https://twitter.com/ChristieGolden/s...95119357440000
    Haha, perfect.
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    You can't fight porn on the internet, you may as well declare war on something overwhelming like water on Earth's surface - or something ephemeral like "terror" (lol sorry, had to do it) - or something both overwhelming and ephemeral... like porn on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r03dz View Post
    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)
    Yes, I can never forget their lovely trip.

    @Hinalover: The thread will probably continue to grow as people take in the info and ask for details.
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    Also, Jaina and Vereesa going for a rid on their skeleton horses. :P (typo intended)
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  13. #1993
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildberry View Post
    Thanks for the thread r03dz, you are now immortalized in the form of skeleton horses.
    My mind will be stuck on convulsing rats, personally.
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    2.) If you have a source, there will be people who refuse to believe it
    3.) If you use logic, it will be largely ignored

  14. #1994
    Quote Originally Posted by r03dz View Post
    Blackmoore, it didn't state directly what happened to him. Also, Jaina's wounds were caused by random individuals throughout the battle. No exact details.
    Jaina used Ice Block
    Jaina: /tar Anduin
    Jaina: /HEALME
    Anduin: /oom
    Anduin's wand hits Infinite Dragon for 10
    Anduin's wand hits Infinite Dragon for 10
    Anduin's wand hits Infinite Dragon for 3
    Anduin's wand crits Infinite Dragon for 15
    Anduin's wand hits Infinite Dragon for 10
    Jaina's Ice Block faded.
    Jaina dies.
    Chi'ji wants to resurrect you.
    Accept / Cancel, have the entire alliance playerbase revolt and then accept anyway.

    Joking aside, there is no way that something would happen to such a major character from such a minor event...

    I really enjoyed the Windrunner sub-plot and although it had its epic moments like the hug and Vereesa's nickname (that brought me a joyful smile, and it was my favourite moment) its end was the complete opposite of what I expected... Of course it had to end because the focus of the book was at the trial but making first Sylvanas to open her heart to someone only to have her dreams shattered and her turning more cold-hearted than ever is kinda underwhelming...
    OK, OK, the Celestial stupidity still wins in the underwhelming factor so I don't have anything to say to this...

    Thank you <insert title here> r03dz for the spoilers (that's something I never thought that I was going to say).

  15. #1995
    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    Also why would Sylvannus have a problem with making Vereesa undead.

    Its not like being undead is bad.
    Remember when Arthas killed every last man or woman under Sylvannas' command then killed her, twisted her immortal soul into a product of his army and then made her finish killing the rest of the people she was trying to protect. Those were the good old days when being undead was bad.

    I kinda miss those days when the Scourge acted like a true Zombie Apocalypse should when armed with magic.

    Scourge > Iron Horde anyday. But I digress, Undeath is a curse that only benefits the one who raises them, its not a buff.

  16. #1996
    First thank you R03dz, ive read all 100 pages counting since yesterday!

    Just my 2c plus cliff notes:

    Boring trial banter that makes for a good book.
    Syll and Vareesa plot ended without a conclusion imo
    Tyrande was still blah
    Baine was blah
    Wrathion and Kairoz were behind the time rift as I suspected 50 pages ago
    Still no answer Why Wrathion did this
    Garrosh was unaware why he was brought back in time (stupid plot imo)
    Infinite & Dragonmaw are somehow in on it (I speculated again) still nothing for backstory, infinte that it
    Noz is mysteriously absent

    The only thing that leaves me speculating is the infinite dragonflight & Kairoz, / Wrathion set up. We can assume infinite / Kairoz / Wrathion / Dragonmaw all fail to conquer azeroth with the iron horde. So what is Wrathion's trump card? What becomes of him and Kairoz?

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    r03dz for warchief.
    /signed

    Thanks r03dz. I've spent the last 5 hours following this thread with growing excitement. And I regret... NOTHING!

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    Thank you for showcasing that the books are sometimes worth buying R03dz, it has definitely taken all night to finish reading through this thread, but it was damn well worth it.

    Funny how this thread alone has showcased this entire community's enthusiasm and love for this game, regardless of our stances in life. Azeroth itself is what we identify with, and Blizzard has done an amazing job for 20 years of keeping this show running.

    Magic is what happened in this shit, and everyone was happy to be on the ride.
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    I keep having this picture in my head of that rat /whispering to Anduin "Rez pls" and Anduin /reply "FFS run back lazy critter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastlivingsoul View Post
    But I digress, Undeath is a curse that only benefits the one who raises them, its not a buff.
    You no longer need to eat, drink, sleep, or even breathe, you don't age, feel no pain from physical sources, you're immune to conventional disease and poisons, you're no longer affected by hormones; also, depending on the type of magics cast, you gain additional strength and resilience to the point when losing a limb is just a minor nuisance... I'd say it's quite a blessing if you retain your free will.
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    Metzenphrenia. As defined in the DSM: "To be so badly written, that it drives the character into insanity." It's symptoms are similar to schizophrenia but even crazier.
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