Has Transmog Served its Purpose?

[dercaderca]

Can't say it's hurt anything. Many people love it, and if you don't you don't have to mog anything. Seems like a success. What's the problem?

It completely fucks low level characters. It's impossible to go on the ah and find a few pieces of leveling gear without spending a fortune.

[3DTyrant]

"it's come to far and is actually damaging the game"

Uhhhhhhhhhmmm.... whaaa-? O.o That's just... What? What do you think people looked like (those who raided) prior to Transmog? That's correct, they looked alike! Transmog isn't doing anything bad for the game...

[Deleted]

I enjoyed some of the new sets very much, and have collected a lot of MoP gear. I just wish the wardrobe thing was complete at WoD launch, I'm running out of room in bank/void storage

[Lumineus]

Though if I see another ing Paladin with T3 and Tabard of the Lightbringer, I'm gonna burn down Blizzard HQ.

Don't hate.

[CandyCotton Marshmallows]

To get to one of your points (having to mog the new gear each time) ... that is a problem with their system, and possibly the attempt they made at an extra gold sink. See, some other games handle this completely different. They have, well, let's call it a vanity panel. You place the 'mog' gear in it, and you have that appearance, no matter what gear you have equipped. No paying to xmog every upgrade.

On to another issue you claimed (people using similar sets) ... I honestly don't see it that much; but I'm not paying -that- much attention. It is certainly less likely that people will be wearing the same gear, than say in the past, where people that raided, pretty much had the same tier set look, or off set look. There was -NO- variety, because you were pigeon-holed to a specific gear progression for your class/armor type. Dungeon/crafted/raid/pvp ... no other options at all.

I also have never seen anyone wear the sets I've chosen for my main class. I only have a few I like, I'm quite picky, but no one has worn any of them in my presence, ever.


If you feel you look more unique not using xmog, then great for you. No need to remove it from the game; in fact, it needs its restrictions lifted. In fact, it is strictly a personal thing anyway, a way for you to find more attachment to your toon. I could give a shit if you are in any particular set. The only time I've noticed is if I liked what they had aesthetically, so I could seek it out for myself, even before xmog; otherwise, I don't really notice people's gear unless it is extremely ugly/distracting, and then, only for a moment.

I never appreciated the look of bad gear, just because it was an upgrade. I HATE 99.99% of the shoulders in the game. I think they are stupid and ugly. Oversized pieces of shit. I'd hide them all if I was allowed to. I'd play without them if it wasn't such a performance loss. As far as a 'useful' set being a feat, it is; it is a means to and end ... your improved performance in the content you wish to partake in. Outside of it increasing your ability to more efficiently partake in what you enjoy ... gear serves no purpose outside aesthetics. Here is the key to making gaming more fun ... -the 'feat' and 'achievement' should come from the pleasure and accomplishment of playing and completing content you find enjoying and/or challenging, NOT gear-. Gear isn't a replacement for talent or fun. It is strictly a gating mechanism in the game outside of personally appealing aesthetics.

You know what constitutes a 'cool' piece of gear for me? The trinket off of Terokk that turns you into an Arokkoa. Items with cool procs and/or effects; be it the legendary cloak, various shoulders, or trinkets that spawn tentacles, etc. I don't find, however, the 50th pair of shoulders 3x the size of my toon's torso, with giant skulls/whatever to be cool in the slightest ... because for me, they are designed with poor taste, scale, and without beauty.

Best looking sets is subjective; though you will find many people finding the more refined and elegant sets to be more appealing; hence the older sets are more popular. You'll also find people trending towards BC because there was color and style back then; before they decided to go mostly muted to 'prevent BC clown suit issues'; not realizing that eventually, going muted too much takes away flavor and character as well. They also have some obsession with going bigger; bigger isn't always better or cooler. Monster trucks can be cool to watch, but most people shouldn't and wouldn't enjoy driving an H1 Hummer. Someone in the art department needs to take a step back and add in some elegance and proportion on occasion.


Taking xmog away would seriously piss a lot of people off; I'm certain some would consider it their personal 'last straw' and leave the game. Don't like it? Don't use it. That goes for any system in the game. I don't like fish; I don't demand fish to be removed from the markets. I don't care what others do; I do what I like. This culture of 'I dun liek it, pls remove' is narcissistic and gotten out of hand.

[Zoaric]

Mogger for life! Honestly, it's among my favorite things in the game, I even get sets
for my ununsed, ungeared alts- just so that everyone looks good in my eyes.

[Thallidomaniac]

Taking xmog away would seriously piss a lot of people off; I'm certain some would consider it their personal 'last straw' and leave the game. Don't like it? Don't use it. That goes for any system in the game. I don't like fish; I don't demand fish to be removed from the markets. I don't care what others do; I do what I like. This culture of 'I dun liek it, pls remove' is narcissistic and gotten out of hand.

The problem is if they become loud enough to the point that Blizzard gives in and gives what the loud minority wants. We've seen that with most of the changes coming to WoD, so it makes you fear that Transmog will be removed as a feature in WoD too.

[hotmess]

I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with transmogging ?__?
It's a lot better than every raider looking like every other raider of their respected classes. Zzzzzz.

[Deleted]

I definitely agree with the poster's points. There is not perfect situation, I'm afraid, however. There were quite a few problems pre-transmog as well. Sometimes your character looked really distasteful when you were using your best gear. The good thing about transmog is that it doesn't obligate you to use it.

[Wilderness]

It completely fucks low level characters. It's impossible to go on the ah and find a few pieces of leveling gear without spending a fortune.

And before transmog do you think people mostly sold low level greens on the AH for cheap enough that a leveling character would feel justified in buying it? I think most people just vendored or DE'd them so there wasn't exactly a huge stockpile just sitting on the AH for leveling players to grab. Plus, its not usually worth it to actually buy much in the way of gear while leveling since you move through it so quickly, and most alts are at least somewhat decked out in heirlooms anyway. If its a new player or someone without heirlooms they probably don't have the gold to buy up a whole bunch of leveling gear anyway.

The only times you might want to purchase a few pieces are when you reach the point where you move to another expansions content, since the low level greens from WotLK will crush anything you got while leveling in TBC and so forth. The last time I leveled something (which was a while ago, I'll grant you), I still had no problems finding fairly cheap items at those expansion breakpoints though.

[Garkanh]

i love crating cool unique sets for many of my characters, while some i like tier sets the best.

for my human rogues, i use dungeons set 3 with katana swords, while my bloodelf is one-of-a-kind bloodelf look with some quest legs, crafted shoulders, rare drop chest, and rare outland greens here and there. it looks awesome, and so far i haven't seen anyone ells wear it (except for my friend who i helped create the exact same set, so we could be identical xD )

but my human lock uses tier 2, and my draenei pala looks like Maraat from TBC cinematic.


but yes, people got defirent views on the sets. Like me, i always puke a little in my mouth when i see the hunter tier 6, but some people actually like it (they are weird, i know).

and some people just like to dress in clown costumes aswell.

[acf]

Let's define buzz words like "inflation of over used sets" before throwing them around first.

Sure, seeing 3 other people running around in Judgment might make one feel a bit less special (mind you, just an example, don't even main a pally myself), but does that mean I'd rather go back to being stuck in either similar looking raid gear like all others with similar raid progress, or complete mismatching clown suit in the case I don't raid? Hell no.

Transmog gives people choice. Just because there are popular choices doesn't mean we shouldn't have choice at all.

[Thallidomaniac]

I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with transmogging ?__?
It's a lot better than every raider looking like every other raider of their respected classes. Zzzzzz.

It's the #CostUsARaidTier argument yet again. Same applies for Pet Battles.

[Vaerys]

And before transmog do you think people mostly sold low level greens on the AH for cheap enough that a leveling character would feel justified in buying it? I think most people just vendored or DE'd them so there wasn't exactly a huge stockpile just sitting on the AH for leveling players to grab. Plus, its not usually worth it to actually buy much in the way of gear while leveling since you move through it so quickly, and most alts are at least somewhat decked out in heirlooms anyway. If its a new player or someone without heirlooms they probably don't have the gold to buy up a whole bunch of leveling gear anyway.

The only times you might want to purchase a few pieces are when you reach the point where you move to another expansions content, since the low level greens from WotLK will crush anything you got while leveling in TBC and so forth. The last time I leveled something (which was a while ago, I'll grant you), I still had no problems finding fairly cheap items at those expansion breakpoints though.

Furthermore, sales of attractive greens can be a significant source of income for a low level player, one which did not previously exist.

[Denkou]

I was so excited to be able to transmog my Warrior into full T6




Until I went into Org and saw about 10 other Warriors with the same transmog.

[Lyese]

Transmog has accomplished many things, such as giving people a reason to run older raids, more in-depth customization, and nostalgia factors. When I was a wee young Paladin back in BC, I almost gave up leveling because the grind was pretty boring. My friend gave me a Bloodrazer as motivation (I like flatblades), and I used it for a while until I finally hit max level. It sat in my bank for many, many years as a reminder of why I played the game, and I was really happy I could finally come back and use it again. Cheesy anime trope aside, memories are a powerful thing.

[Faroth]

TLDR: In my opinion the game has more longevity if it's constantly evolving, and how people look changes over time. You also avoid inflation of over used sets, and a lot more variety. In my case, the way I can look the most unique is to avoid transmog entirely.

"A lot more variety" you say? You know before Transmog, I took a screenshot where there were no less than six paladins standing in Dalaran who looked exactly like me. EXACTLY the same. Yet you'd suggest transmog hurts variety?

Yeah, people are still going to choose some sets and wind up looking the same, but for every 2-3 that are identical today, you had 20+ identical before transmog.

It also helps people like me who think there hasn't been one single decent tier set for any of my characters since BC. Seriously, the vast majority look like complete garbage to me, particularly for my characters and the way I envision them.

And as Valyrian said...custom armor sets are the way to go, not pre-designed by Blizzard.

I don't actively work on these anymore, but:
https://sites.google.com/site/mogmygear/

I was rather proud of the mix-n-match sets I put together.

[dacoolist]

It's a good system in theory, and served it's purpose well and has become an integral part in this game. It's marked its spot in the economy, and has become a hobby for many.

However, I personally find, and I know a lot of the people I play with agree, it's come to far and is actually damaging the game as it is. We're now playing in a time where most players are running around with perfect sets of gear, and the best looking sets are evidently the most popular and so often times you see many people running around looking alike.

No doubt it's all up to how each individual likes their own character, but I think a certain atmosphere and personality is created when people are different and unique. I'm not going to say "in tbc...in vanilla" because this was the case pre 4.3 even, at which point you saw people running around with different pieces of gear from different sets. Even though it didn't always look good, people got used to it and it wasn't bad. This also made you appreciate every single cool piece of gear, and when you pick it up, it makes a difference.

To all the people who want to mention that I am wearing challenge mode gear, I think obtaining a useful fuel set of something should be a feat, something you achieved. Whether it's LFR or mythic, or challenge mode in my case. But the fact that it is strictly transmog gear, which I always have to transmog on the new gear I receive, it makes me like this cool set a lot less.

TLDR: In my opinion the game has more longevity if it's constantly evolving, and how people look changes over time. You also avoid inflation of over used sets, and a lot more variety. In my case, the way I can look the most unique is to avoid transmog entirely.

Xmog was the biggest successful addition Blizzard has EVER implemented in WoW History. Every SINGLE person I run into is Transmogged, and They love that they have the ability to Customize their look, and feel of a toon they are looking at each time they enter the game.

I am wearing Scumbag CMode gear, and I love it!

[Revi]

Personally I'd be happy to see it go, but a lot of people enjoy it and it gives outdated content new use so why take that away from people?

[dacoolist]

I was so excited to be able to transmog my Warrior into full T6




Until I went into Org and saw about 10 other Warriors with the same transmog.

Grab that Season three set from Area 52, it's the same look, but a sweet Blue color! I love it!!

(Or you can keep the awesome looking T6 obviously )