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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baalb View Post
    Because flying is a choice, if you don't enjoy it there are ground mounts
    Flying is as much of a "choice" as the toggle-able DS buff.

    Would people stay on ground mounts if flying was allowed in battlegrounds?
    No, they wouldn't. Even if it was their stern opinion that BGs are designed to be played on the ground.
    Having to willingly gimp oneself in order to experience content as intended is terrible design.

    It's one way or the other. Either you "force" people to experience content as designed, or you let everyone skip it because "choice". No one would fight through a castle when they can safely land on the tower where the boss is. Even if they would enjoy everything from voice acting, scripting and so on between the entrance and final staircase. Players are like electricity, they choose the path of least resistance.

    If Blizzard aren't allowed to restrict players, then truly they might as well hand out gear and everything else from a vendor. Why not, people could choose to get them the real way right? Yeah, very likely indeed. And wonder how long they'd stay interested then.
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    Yay...just what every content starved wow player wanted... a new shop and /or raf mount... They could have easily added a single new world boss and given this mount as a rare drop and it could have encouraged thousands to resub -.-'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    Yay...just what every content starved wow player wanted... a new shop and /or raf mount... They could have easily added a single new world boss and given this mount as a rare drop and it could have encouraged thousands to resub -.-'
    Yes, thousands of people would resub for an world boss. Good logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Yes, thousands of people would resub for an world boss. Good logic.
    There isn't a a fault in the logic,

    People enjoy and therefore sub for content , world boss= content with the least amount of development effort (compared to dungeons,raids etc). Therefore people would sub for a world boss.

    Did you see how many people camped the wolf boss in Darkmoon fair in order to get the pet/ transmog, mounts are even more valuable than pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ærion View Post

    Well that fucking does it. I've been suckered (baited really) into buying the expansion, because of a goddamn flying mount of all things. I'll play it till cap with one character, then I'm done with wow.
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    I'm sorry you bought WOD expansion I could tell it was gonna be poops with everything that has been shown so far they just wanna nickle and dime us removing something we've had since BC is like making us RP walk everywhere its just insane if it was this bad they should have removed fly back in cata not allow you to fly while questing to max level lol it just made things even more instant gratification. I suggest investing into D3 ROS play that for next 30 days until wildstar headstart or buy FFXIV a realm reborn for about $20 with 30 day gametime included you can try it out also a new patch for it came out lots of new things to do until wildstar comes out. Let wow eat its own words and how it treats the customers like we are dumb.
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    you can fit your entire guild on that mount. it gets longer across the body like that horse in the crazy japanese 3d animated horse race movies

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    Seems like a RaF mount - or a guild achievement raid reward. Either way, its awesome to look at, and I would definitely stop and stare.

    Mount collection isn't my thing, but I definitely do enjoy observing and collecting mounts (that aren't exorbitant to say the least) that I can easily attain, with moderate to little effort.

    It's always nice to see Blizzard have new content, and at the speed they're doing, I have to give them props, and marvel at their ability to churn and generate content for the player base to consume.

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    Guess I'm opening my fifth account. That mount is gorgeous!

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    Why did they even bother making a post about flying in WoD if all they've got is some vague crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterHamster View Post
    Flying is as much of a "choice" as the toggle-able DS buff.

    Would people stay on ground mounts if flying was allowed in battlegrounds?
    No, they wouldn't. Even if it was their stern opinion that BGs are designed to be played on the ground.
    Having to willingly gimp oneself in order to experience content as intended is terrible design.

    It's one way or the other. Either you "force" people to experience content as designed, or you let everyone skip it because "choice". No one would fight through a castle when they can safely land on the tower where the boss is. Even if they would enjoy everything from voice acting, scripting and so on between the entrance and final staircase. Players are like electricity, they choose the path of least resistance.

    If Blizzard aren't allowed to restrict players, then truly they might as well hand out gear and everything else from a vendor. Why not, people could choose to get them the real way right? Yeah, very likely indeed. And wonder how long they'd stay interested then.
    Exactly. All of my enjoyment fighting my way through that fort to my assassination target is going to be ruined when before I get to the boss someone sweeps in on their flying mount and steals my kill. I picked up the quest half an hour ago and have just gotten to the boss. The other guy picked up the quest 2 minutes ago and hasn't put in an ounce of effort.

    Whether flying is removed or kept in, it isn't a choice. Or at least not a viable choice. Either there's no flying, or there is the option between flying and gimping yourself.
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    Flying does not concern me. I will level up and just sit in the city anyway, waiting for my queue to pop, or to be summoned to the raid. I do, however, feel sorry for all the players who think this will make questing past 100 somehow viable. All you will get is a bunch of dailies that you eventually will start hating and that you can't skip, because ground mounts. One thing I learned through the years of playing this game. The people that play the game do not change. You will do the same thing you always do, flying mounts or no flying mounts. Remember what they said about mop? How they would make sure that there was a reason to get out into the world and not sit in 1 place? Yeah that worked out so well. People do what they always do and that's quest to cap, sit in city wait for queue to pop, waiting for a group to form, or waiting for a summon. And if mop is anything to go by, that's a big part of wow players.

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    I can see where they're coming from, however no flying at max level still sucks. I've cancelled my sub 4 months ago (been active before that continually since burning crusade), and the no-flying-policy is one of those things that make it unlikely I will come back again.

    In my opinion the WotLK model was the best: no flying till you reach max level, but afterwards you can buy flying for your main and your toons.

    Sneaking through your castle to reach the boss is fine once or twice, but after a while I just want to fly to the boss and kill him. Or farm stuff. Or whatever.
    Dailies are terrible content anyways. I was nearly done with MoP shortly after realease when you had to grind 4+ faction dailies. Several of my friends did indeed quit because of this after checking out MoP for a little while.
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    Ofc it's a RAF mount.
    Quarterly sub count is imminent, they want mount buyers to soften the blow lol.

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    I really dont think this is a RAF-mount. I just think the "best used with friends" shows that its a 2-man mount.

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    Can't have it both ways, most of the points they are using to dispute having flying mounts in WoD can be used to dispute having instant level 90 yet as we all know when you purchase WoD you get a free instant level 90.

    The same reason why they are giving players instant level 90 will be the same reason why 3-4 months into WoD we will able to use flying mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    Yay...just what every content starved wow player wanted... a new shop and /or raf mount... They could have easily added a single new world boss and given this mount as a rare drop and it could have encouraged thousands to resub -.-'
    How about you stop and think about this. They made this mount to incentivise RAF (which is an attempt to attract new players to the game, a fucking hard thing to do for a 10 year old game incidentally). If they hadn't intended to make it an RAF mount, they would've not created it in the first place. They don't make cool mounts and then decide how to award them. Each one costs art team resource ie time ie money to make. So they start with a reason, and the reason for this one was RAF - new account acquisition.

    So your options are not "RAF mount" or "cool sweet awesome boss I can farm for it". Your options are RAF mount or sweet diddly bupkis nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ærion View Post
    I don't care about loop-de-loop or "efficient" flight points.
    I don't care about "alternate" means of transportation.
    I don't care about dungeons past the first completion.
    I'll never do any pvp without being forced to
    I've stopped caring about raiding a while ago.
    I don't care to be grounded when I just want to spend a few hours farming some mats, or *gasp* doing archaeology (NEVER ON GROUND MOUNTS, NEVER EVER EVER) while listening to a book and just shutting down my mind for a while.
    I don't care about any quest past the leveling experience, have they learned fucking nothing from the first patch of MoP and the daily mindfuck?
    I absolutely hate the islands and everything they stand for.
    I don't have fun in wow past the initial leveling experience of a new expansion, when everything is new and interesting for a few days.
    I don't log in to wow because I enjoy it, I log in to wow because the sheer amount of resources I've dumped into it over the years, and abandoning it feels akin to hitting an old dog.
    I don't give one single fuck about their design decisions or how they intend people to play the game. I understand their reasoning, but I don't fucking care.

    I just can't understand why the fuck they insist on polarizing their players this way when it's not a clear-cut majority that wants to be grounded, it's split pretty equally.

    Again and again they've dodged actually answering the question on if they intend to block flying from here on out in all future content. A simple yes or no on 6.1 would have silenced most of these threads/posts, but no, they just "don't know".

    Well that fucking does it. I've been suckered (baited really) into buying the expansion, because of a goddamn flying mount of all things. I'll play it till cap with one character, then I'm done with wow.

    The most polished nostalgia trip ever kept me going because of the shallow illusion of freedom it had for a while. If I want a generic fantasy mmo that's strictly ground-based, I have so many options it's not even funny. I don't feel like paying €13 each month for something that spits in my face.

    /rant over

    why the fuck couldn't those old devs just stay the hell away from it...
    It's amazing how angry you are over something that makes almost no difference to the game.

    You know they aren't removing any of your flying mounts yeah?
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    At least Rorcanna chased away Bizarre Monkey guy so no more insults. I would prefer flying to stay after you reach max level for convenience and admiring beauty of New Draenor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You know they aren't removing any of your flying mounts yeah?
    Yea I guess giant cloud serpents will look really good, glued to the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War30 View Post
    I really feel sorry for you for you are the one whining and complaining. I'm old enough to UNDERSTAND what is right and what is deceiving. I'm not a sheep like you. There has been no shred of proof why this feature is being removed. Why all of a sudden the change? Burning crusade and Lich king had no problems with it because we had to level up 10 lvs. The problem was with Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria where we were only leveling 5 levels which we burned through fast. That was there problem on why people were getting through the content fast. So tell me what are you afraid of? That people will wise up for the first time since this game was released and go play something else and ruin you gaming experience with those you raid with. I"m paying for a FULL gaming experience. Correction. WE ARE ALL PAYING for a full gaming experience and we as customers should get that.

    You know what I really see happening. Remember this, OK. What BLIZZARD is really doing is that they are going to charge you the LOYAL consumer 25 bucks in there store to use flying mounts. This is there plan. I have foreseen this and everyone better be prepared for this for if you buy this feature you are a bunch of idiots.
    Being old enough to have an independent thought is no guarantee it will be correct. There is a significant amount of proof that flight trivializes leveling content. Examples like the quest-target captain in the courtyard are common. When you take an alt through TBC now that outland flying is allowed at L60, the impact is extremely noticeable. Every class becomes the equiv of a stealth class but with zero chance of being detected and attacked by adds that arent within aggro range of the target.

    When TBC was new, the FULL game required questing from the ground til L70 (L68 for druids and let me vouch for the fact that flightform felt like cheating for 2 levels). When LK was new, the FULL game required grounded questing until L78 and they used lots of caves, tunnels and buildings to force ground questing in many of the upper level quest areas. Cata was not grounded other than as a gold sink and questing was much easier in some areas because of it. MoP was forced grounding until 90 as well and many quests become trivial as soon as the toon obtains flight.


    No question that flying is a lot better than sightseeing flight point travel... It definitely is. They could fix that; sounds like that is part of the WoD design plan. Doubt they will change any paths in previous content. Even less chance that any kind of flight restrictions are added there either. Blizz gets nothing from changing those areas except for making them easier to powerlevel alts.

    This could the first xpac where flight has a much higher entry barrier set... Something akin to a maxxing rep in multiple factions, or it may be blocked until the following xpac. It would be nice if they came up with another tech that made flying risky. Your energy would be far better spent suggesting innovative ideas for that rather than fantasizing about some conspiracy to make pay extra cash to break the WoD questing content. Too many employed players like me would gladly screw the rest of the player base in a heartbeat. Just because Blizz is right about flight, wouldnt stop me from abusing it ;-)


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