Woman robbed with young child should be held responsible.

[Mormolyce]

WHAT A DUMB BITCH!

Sweet that's my fix of victim blaming and barely concealed misogyny for the day.

[sarecho]

man, i know a lot of you folks are from places where shit like this doesn't happen and you're totally naive to these situations (other than what you read, which is worth nothing), but when someone takes what is yours, you fight or flight. you're wired a certain way. most people are scared and they flight, some fight. it's as hard for either to do the other. you are what you are.

[Deleted]

Why do people keep bringing this up and thinking its valid reasoning for her actions? We know what the thief did is wrong, bad, and resulted in this. But we also know that her actions exasperated the issue. I just find it really weird that people are so vehemently against accepting that.

I guess some peoples thought processes are just vastly different. Mine works like this: If a guy comes up and randomly punches me in the face, I'm not going to immediately swing back. Unless hes attempting to pummel me, I'm going to take a step back and take a second to think "What reason did he have to do that? How should I react?"
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If you think its logical to confront some one who could possibly have a weapon and is already breaking the law, then all I can say is I hope you never get mugged.

This conversation is turning very immature.

[sarecho]

If you think its logical to confront some one who could possibly have a weapon and is already breaking the law, then all I can say is I hope you never get mugged.

everyone on earth could be willing to kill you for nothing. you can't function if you're truly as terrified of confrontation as you are trying to come across. or you're trolling
either way, you should be punished, you don't need to pass those genes on. people like that really have no place

[Deleted]

man, i know a lot of you folks are from places where shit like this doesn't happen and you're totally naive to these situations (other than what you read, which is worth nothing), but when someone takes what is yours, you fight or flight. you're wired a certain way. most people are scared and they flight, some fight. it's as hard for either to do the other. you are what you are.

As such her reactions are perfectly normal and she shouldn't be blamed for anything.
Hindsight is a great thing.

[Alcsaar]

everyone on earth could be willing to kill you for nothing. you can't function if you're truly as terrified of confrontation as you are trying to come across. or you're trolling
either way, you should be punished, you don't need to pass those genes on. people like that really have no place

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You mean people who think out their reactions before doing them?

So you'd rather just have the world ran by impulse people, huh?

Have fun in that lifetime mate.

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You mean people who think out their reactions before doing them?

So you'd rather just have the world ran by impulse people, huh?

Have fun in that lifetime mate.

You'll probably find out in 10-15 years or so.

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I feel like you're not even trying. You can do better. At least call her a slut. I believe in you.

Nah that would be too "out in the open". Lets get to at least page 13 for that.

[Eon Drache]

Why do people keep bringing this up and thinking its valid reasoning for her actions? We know what the thief did is wrong, bad, and resulted in this. But we also know that her actions exasperated the issue. I just find it really weird that people are so vehemently against accepting that.

I guess some peoples thought processes are just vastly different. Mine works like this: If a guy comes up and randomly punches me in the face, I'm not going to immediately swing back. Unless hes attempting to pummel me, I'm going to take a step back and take a second to think "What reason did he have to do that? How should I react?"

If a man rapes a woman and she fights back is it that woman's fault if he beats her for fighting back? If she hadn't fought him off during the rape, he wouldn't have beat her to death.

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If a man rapes a woman and she fights back is it that woman's fault if he beats her for fighting back? If she hadn't fought him off during the rape, he wouldn't have beat her to death.

OP this is exactly where your question leads and why people are dismissing it.
It has now been put in front of you.

[josykay]

If you think its logical to confront some one who could possibly have a weapon and is already breaking the law, then all I can say is I hope you never get mugged.

Yeah... totally no different from snatching something from a car's top and stabbing two people. In fact most of those thieves decide to run away if there is even the slightest resistence. "To cronfront" could in this case mean, that the women shouted "hey" or something. Could mean, that she tried to crap the thief or her belongings... This is a natural reflex, and a quite understandable reaction. So far as I read the article only the killed man chased the suspect. Not the woman.

[Solarth]

!.) No way in hell am I ever going to just let someone take my shit from me with out a fight, if it kills me then so be it, but I ain't going down like a bitch.
2.) This is a prime example of why law abiding citizens should always carry a fire arm, what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight? You lose!

[Zhangfei]

!.) No way in hell am I ever going to just let someone take my shit from me with out a fight, if it kills me then so be it, but I ain't going down like a bitch.
2.) This is a prime example of why law abiding citizens should always carry a fire arm, what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight? You lose!

Mmmmm escalation keeps everyone safe.

[Alcsaar]

If a man rapes a woman and she fights back is it that woman's fault if he beats her for fighting back\? If she hadn't fought him off during the rape, he wouldn't have beat her to death.

You are comparing a crime where a woman is already being physically assaulted. The comparison here is negligible and easily dismissed. Thats a wild connection to try and make.

[Deleted]

!.) No way in hell am I ever going to just let someone take my shit from me with out a fight, if it kills me then so be it, but I ain't going down like a bitch.
2.) This is a prime example of why law abiding citizens should always carry a fire arm, what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight? You lose!

*facedesk furiosly*

[Zhangfei]

You are comparing a crime where a woman is already being physically assaulted. The comparison here is negligible and easily dismissed. Thats a wild connection to try and make.

In the first case someone was committing a crime and the second a person is committing a crime. What's the difference, exactly?

[Deleted]

You are comparing a crime where a woman is already being physically assaulted. The comparison here is negligible and easily dismissed. Thats a wild connection to try and make.

Huh? And the logic in here?

[King Shark]

So you recommend women with small children to confront thieves with knives. You think thats a good idea.

I recommend you not put words in my goddamn mouth. No where did I hint anything of the sort. He asked a question, I gave an answer; the thief could have been a murderous fuck-shit for all we know. Being stabbed could have just been her destiny regardless of how she handled the situation.

The intent of my post was to point out that victim blaming is for assholes and Rush Limbaugh. You reading all into that and coming up with this, is all you, not me.

[Solarth]

*facedesk furiosly*

oh yea what exactly would your plan be in that situation, have you ever been in a life and death situation?

[Alcsaar]

In the first case someone was committing a crime and the second a person is committing a crime. What's the difference, exactly?

Crimes aren't black and white. There are varying degrees of crimes, obviously. Having a physical good stolen isn't as detrimental as being sexually assaulted, and to claim that it is is pretty ridiculous. Next time you talk to a rape victim, ask her if she thinks rapists and thiefs should be tried the same.

[Zhangfei]

Crimes aren't black and white. There are varying degrees of crimes, obviously. Having a physical good stolen isn't as detrimental as being sexually assaulted, and to claim that it is is pretty ridiculous. Next time you talk to a rape victim, ask her if she thinks rapists and thiefs should be tried the same.

I agree. But in both cases they are a victim and have every right to defend themselves from being victims of crime, and any further illegal acts by the perpetrator of the crime lies entirely on their shoulders.