I will admit I have seen people I suspect live like this. No one on food stamps should be buying frozen lobster in bulk. (I used to work as a cashier at a Sam's Club. They were buying amounts and types of food I could never hope to afford working there. I would have gone though an entire pay check or more to keep up, even factoring in my employee discounts (Which was on nothing but produce.. and meats and bakery good during the holidays)
Good to know!
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Almost feel sorry for Katter's party. Shouldn't this loon be campaigning for Family First or One Nation?
Good luck with that defense lol.
FYI, the video game censorship debacle was because of one governor general in South Australia abusing his office and vetoing any attempt to move game legislation out of the 1950s. He since moved on and we all got the fuck on with it.
We do not have a Bill of Rights (even New Zealand does!), instead freedom of speech is implemented and interpreted entirely on case law. So it's not as strict as yours, our governments have leeway to institute anti-vilification laws. Which are somewhat controversial.
Then again people like this aren't about to attract anyone's sympathy.
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Jesus (nor to my knowledge anyone in the Bible) never once mentioned abortion either.
And yet he went on and on about how divorce is an abomination in the sight of god, so few Christians pay the slightest attention to that anymore.
In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
So infertile couples should stay celibate? By that logic an infertile man and wife sleeping together is as big an abomination as homosexuality.
None of that is mentioned in the Bible, the Gospels do not record anything about homosexuality, and there are no secondary sources to refer to because there is no contemporary corroboration of the life of Jesus or even that he existed at all. So you're just guessing and making all that up because it sounds nice to you.
But don't worry, that's precisely what churches have been doing for 2,000 years too.
In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
I resent being compared to a Pederast (I know you weren't tying to compare ME to one, but as I'm gay, I kinda can't help but be offended)
Though to be fair, that kind of thing was totally cool among the Romans and Greeks and stuff. Sexuality was all about who was on the giving end during sex with them, and that kind of relationship was seen as a fact of life, and being in one with a rich or influential man as seen as a boon. Though comparing it to two consenting adults is kinda pushing it. (Though yes, I do know that those relationships were pretty much consensual or arranged by the boy's family. It's still not right in today's society, straight or gay.)
Still I'm not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me....
Well first, as you said, pederasty is a totally different beast to contemporary homosexuality, but my point was you don't apply current cultural mores to then as much as their mores to us.
And second, I was agreeing with you. Nothing about how Jesus is written would imply he'd have "moral blind spots."
In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
Not that it matters, games still get banned! Yay for useless changes.
OT: I guess it bothers me when people use religion as the only reason they dislike homosexuals but ignore all the other things the bible condemns. It hypocrisy at it's finest and a great deal of politicians use it either because they believe it or because it's a vote winner, i'm not sure which is worse. I've yet to see a political party have a policy on wearing clothes made of two different fabrics, yet they're all over marriage equality.
Is it a surprise that those who want to criminalize homosexuality, get their information and their beliefs from the Bible?
Sure, she may be a single person, but when there is more and more people who are basically advocating the same position as this person, you really have to wonder, does the Bible condone such behavior? Is this wave of homophobia endemic to the Bible?
Whoever loves let him flourish. / Let him perish who knows not love. / Let him perish twice who forbids love. - Pompeii
Regardless of if her bible argument is valid or not; why should she apologize for that? She didn't say homosexuals were on the same level of pedophiles, she said she didn't want any of them in her schools. It's like if I said I don't want to fuck a 7, 6, or 1 tonight.
Do you think the Bible promotes homophobia? I mean, the case can be made that they're being expedient (after all they are using the Bible to justify their beliefs), but I feel that the Bible is so vague, to the point that rational persons must conclude that the Bible does not support, but the Bible doesn't condemn that issue.
Welp.
Whoever loves let him flourish. / Let him perish who knows not love. / Let him perish twice who forbids love. - Pompeii
You are free to believe whatever you wish. I want to point out (as this bound to be reported by some of you good religious folk as it offends you - even though it is not directed at you in particular) that this is not directed at any individual or religion in particular - there are about 40,000 different interpretations / religions regarding the judeo-christian texts.
It always amuses me how people try their darndest to make apology for religion - many in this thread.
According to the judeo-christian texts, homosexuality is immoral - stop trying to square the circle.
I also distinctly remember my Sunday school teacher telling me that homosexuals would burn in hell.
You are fighting a losing battle when you try to use an "unchanging" text written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders to act as a guide for a changing world, society, culture as well as moral code. The moral code has undergone several changes since 6000 years ago - forget about the significant changes in philosophy, science in general.
With every advance in science, gods become less and less relevant as we explain more and more of the natural world.
Thank goodness that I don't believe in any religion any longer and don't hate people without good reason.
"hate the sin, but not the sinner" is a ludicrous statement - it shifts responsibility from the perpetrator. I would go into detail, but then I would be reported for religion bashing.
Time to do a YouTube video on my jabbers.
EDIT: also... how the heck she groups homosexuality with pedophilia is beyond me. That statement is blatantly defamatory towards homosexuals. Adults are attracted to adults. A pedophile can be homosexual or heterosexual.
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How far should religion be involved in the law? Not at all.
No they should never mix, laws should be made by people in the intent to be able to determine what is harmful to others (this includes property), not made by people who are basing this of a religious doctrine because they think its right because a book told them its right.
Religious doctrines are not that flexible, only the level of how people practice it are.
Good ol' homophobia, just like racism and other bigoted beliefs, it'll never disappear from this planet.