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    Disgusting Oozeling and raiding

    I know it will sound retarded to a lot of people, but someone in my raid said that the aura from this pet is extremally bad for PVE, since it gives me less resistance.
    I know we dont have the status resistance in the game anymore, so my question is: anyone knows if i can use this pet safelly and be green and happy while raiding? Or i shouldnt use it, because it can make me less resistant?

    Oozeling's Disgusting Aura
    100 yd range
    Reduces master's resistances by 20.

    Thanks for any kind of help here =)

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    Resistances aren't really a thing anymore. It used to lower defense, which was a bit worse. Go be happy and green, if loosing 20 resistance has a detrimental effect to your raid, you have other problems :3
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    Resistances have been pretty much removed. It was important up to WotLK, but there are no more resistances. Even the available +resist stuff does nothing in a raiding enviroment. So yea, you can use the Disgusting Oozeling as much as you want.
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    Resistances are still a thing. They're just an invisible mechanic now, like weapon skill, defense rating, and others. (source; I'm pretty sure this is still relevant, but correct me if I'm wrong)

    +res gear still works for sure. They had to nerf the Mirror of Broken Images in MoP because it was still really, really good for early progression on high spell damage fights (such as Stone Guards, Elegon, and Will of the Emperor). We can infer from this that -res still works and that the Oozeling will have some effect on spell damage taken. Since it's only -20, it's probably not a big deal, but it's still something.

    Unless there's real, concrete evidence that -20res has absolutely no effect on damage taken, I wouldn't use the pet.

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    Afaik Mirror really didn't have much use even in T14 heroics. It even had very little use in Dragon Soul (Yorsahj heroic only?). The effect simply wasn't enough to compare to other trinkets that were available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equalizer View Post
    Afaik Mirror really didn't have much use even in T14 heroics. It even had very little use in Dragon Soul (Yorsahj heroic only?). The effect simply wasn't enough to compare to other trinkets that were available.
    Mirror had a lot of use through the entire expansion. It was the one trinket every tank kept for certain fights in every tier.

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    I would put it this simple - if you guys are trying to get a good realm kill (top ten-twenty), I'd say drop that trinket. Otherwise, if you are semi-casual/somewhathardcore, I realy dont see how -20 res can mess up a raid for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonslid View Post
    I would put it this simple - if you guys are trying to get a good realm kill (top ten-twenty), I'd say drop that trinket. Otherwise, if you are semi-casual/somewhathardcore, I realy dont see how -20 res can mess up a raid for you.
    It's a pet, not a trinket. If your raid leader is saying it's holding you back during an encounter, he has other problems to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farath View Post
    It's a pet, not a trinket. If your raid leader is saying it's holding you back during an encounter, he has other problems to deal with.
    Ups sorry, I ment pet, was kinda late so my brain mixed it up with the trinket someone linked..

    But yeah, in the end its probably vise to listen to your raid leader (Sucks to be benched because you want to be green).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equalizer View Post
    Afaik Mirror really didn't have much use even in T14 heroics. It even had very little use in Dragon Soul (Yorsahj heroic only?). The effect simply wasn't enough to compare to other trinkets that were available.
    Lei shi heroic was made completly laughable due to a 1 minute -40% magic dmg reduc CD (basicly, DP for everyone!)

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    Its not going to have much of an effect at all while raiding - but at the same time, would it be so difficult just to put it away while you raid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Resistances have been pretty much removed. It was important up to WotLK, but there are no more resistances. Even the available +resist stuff does nothing in a raiding enviroment. So yea, you can use the Disgusting Oozeling as much as you want.
    This is not true at all. I used full frost resist gear on Lei Shi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirl View Post
    Resistances are still a thing. They're just an invisible mechanic now, like weapon skill, defense rating, and others. (source; I'm pretty sure this is still relevant, but correct me if I'm wrong)

    +res gear still works for sure. They had to nerf the Mirror of Broken Images in MoP because it was still really, really good for early progression on high spell damage fights (such as Stone Guards, Elegon, and Will of the Emperor). We can infer from this that -res still works and that the Oozeling will have some effect on spell damage taken. Since it's only -20, it's probably not a big deal, but it's still something.

    Unless there's real, concrete evidence that -20res has absolutely no effect on damage taken, I wouldn't use the pet.
    This, resistances for a fact work at lvl 60, I've tested them, I wouldn't be surprised if they still worked at max level. There's not much of a reason to find out right now, but I wouldn't be surprised at some point if there's a boss down the road that has mechanics that can be cheesed through resist gear. Not all of the gear works, I suspect that green gear with resists does nothing, but epic resist gear definitely still works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farath View Post
    If your raid leader is saying it's holding you back during an encounter, he has other problems to deal with.
    Yeah, OP you should probably not worry about getting a food buff either. I mean, if not having food buff is holding you back, you have other problems to deal with.

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    It can make the difference, but in 99% of scenarios it won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krommm View Post
    It can make the difference, but in 99% of scenarios it won't.
    It's not that it's making the difference between a wipe and a kill. It's the fact that just by carrying that pet, you are weakening yourself.

    It is expected of every raid member in a raid group to play at the best of their ability. If you are giving yourself a detrimental effect for no reason other than "This is my favorite pet" then you aren't playing to the best of your ability.

    A food buff probably isn't going to make or break a fight, but it's still enough to warrant some worry if someone REFUSES to get a food buff. It's the same idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamanis View Post
    Mirror had a lot of use through the entire expansion. It was the one trinket every tank kept for certain fights in every tier.
    It was also amazing for warrior tanks, since we needed a shitload more mastery than paladins to block cap.

    It took until mostly full heroic firelands gear for my warrior to reach block cap. I didn't replace my mirror until I got the beth'tilac trinket. And then I kept it for Yor'sahj, Ultraxion, and Heroic Zon'ozz. (That increased shadow resist on Ultraxion and Zon'ozz was amazing; Every black blood, pop it early and soak most of the damage at the beginning of the phase, and every hour of twilight I soaked as well.)

    The mirror was AMAZING throughout all of Cata.
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    So much wrong here it hurts. Blizzard removed negative resistances a long time ago. Having the pet out will reduce your resist all of 0 to 0 aka no effect. It's pure flavor and you should feel free to use it when and wherever you want.

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