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    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    Is opening Google in another tab and doing a search really difficult?.
    It certainly isn't...
    But why forcing people doing just that, if common sense dictates that in an international forum with a wide array of countries present, the mentioning of the country of origin for courtesy alone would eliminate confusion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Sounds like a great platform other than legalizing rape and cancelling house building. Sounds like a party for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    I shall be voting labour , just because i don't want conservatives to win a majority<3 The only reason they won last time was because a lot of labour voters moved to lib dem, this time conservatives won't have that luxury to rely on :P
    Nah the vote will be split by mongos voting UKIP and conservatives will be laughing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexed View Post
    I challenge you to prove that's what UKIP intend to do.
    go read their manifesto (yeah farage says he has not got one, but strangely enough there are 2 on their website, and the previous elections one is still around if you search for it).

    These are all things UKIP have themselves said or put in a document.

    For god sake, learn about the damm party you vote for. Dont vote single issue its moronic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houyi View Post
    IWe have problems in the UK, but they are largely the fault of our own government over the last few decades, we should solve the actual underlying issues, not stoop to just blaming the outsider in a jingoistic, xenophobic knee jerk reaction.
    The problem is tha jingoitic xenophobic knee jerk reactions are far easier, takes less thought, and can follow a "but <insertauthorityfigurehere> told me so!"
    Even if the authority in question is lying or telling halftruths to serve an agenda.
    UKIP, Sweden Democrats, France National Party, and pretty much every Facist- Right Wing Socialist whatever mix on the ries in Europe.

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    According to the latest opinion polls ukip will get 31% in the EU election. So their message reaches most britons and their support will keep growing until they break free from the oppression of Europe.
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    Just gonna leave this here:


    I'm voting Article 50 from the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmist View Post
    A brief straw poll at the office revealed that misguided, closet racists are the main UKIP audience. Basically Tory voters that don't like the current lot of Tories.

    We do seem to have a culture of publicly backing the "little guy" in any election, while still voting either Tory or Labour at the polls. Last time it was the Lib Dems, and look where that got us. It's basically an alternative to the current government, without going as far as voting for real opposite. We already ousted the idea of proportional representation because it was too complicated (despite having a population that can play the lottery each week), so there's no danger of UKIP actually getting a real say in anything.

    To me it would be far better to have a box for No Suitable Candidate, and if that box won then new candidates would have to be picked. Anyone not voting counts as No Suitable Candidate. We might actually get people in parliament who represent our interests if we did that.
    first alternative vote was not proportional representation. It was a flawed half arsed system.

    As soon as we get a proper proportional vote system proposed, I'll vote for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    Its all Brussels and immigrants fault obviously!
    Don't you Belgians getting tired already?
    I wonder when you are going to kick the EU govt out of your country lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Farage looks and sounds like a big conman, he claims to "be one of the lads" and the working class lap this up. He was infact educated at a very expensive private school and worked as a stockbroker, he has never done a blue collar job in his life. He is as full of shit as the other parties but at least they have long term plans, unlike UKIP.
    It's why I won't vote for him, he's just a Tory in a different colour. I support the EU because I believe in this day and age Britain needs to have support from outside its own shores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sting View Post
    Just gonna leave this here:


    I'm voting Article 50 from the Netherlands.
    so? there are extremists on both sides.

    Treat any party's claims with skepticism. I'm not saying people should not be anti-eu, even though I am pro, I am saying they should not be willfully fucking ignorant on what UKIP actually stand for other than on one issue.

    Also, no one wants us to leave the common market, and that would require us to subscribe to most EU regulation anyway, I'd rather be in the room with a seat (and veto and rebate) at the table, than outside subject to whatever is decided and still paying for access...leaving the EU actually makes us less democratically accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Sounds like a great platform other than legalizing rape and cancelling house building. Sounds like a party for me!
    Oh Orlong I love your posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippoflames View Post
    My problem with immigration is that where I work they are letting people go who are earning reasonable money and replacing then with 2 x Polish workers on minimum wage.
    If someone can easily be replaced by a minimum wage employee, maybe they weren't worth all that much in the first place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazajin View Post
    It's why I won't vote for him, he's just a Tory in a different colour. I support the EU because I believe in this day and age Britain needs to have support from outside its own shores.
    I just wish you'd be more focused on the support from your European partners, and not so much from the big brother across the pond....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houyi View Post
    so? there are extremists on both sides.

    Treat any party's claims with skepticism. I'm not saying people should not be anti-eu, even though I am pro, I am saying they should not be willfully fucking ignorant on what UKIP actually stand for other than on one issue.

    Also, no one wants us to leave the common market, and that would require us to subscribe to most EU regulation anyway, I'd rather be in the room with a seat (and veto and rebate) at the table, than outside subject to whatever is decided and still paying for access...leaving the EU actually makes us less democratically accountable.
    Not saying you guys should leave the EU, that's a bad call, but please don't vote these idiots into power. Brussels is swiftly becoming a cesspool of bureaucracy and money grabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    You mean UKIP members have been victimised by the newspapers that support other parties.
    victimised? point a camera at them or let them lose on social media and they some out with sexist, racist comments....you cant seam to stop them.


    No, they are a political party, up until now they were a protest vote, no one cared. Now they claim to be mainstream, so they are subject to the same scrutiny that other parties get. The problem is they have far more fruitcakes in their party than most, and the public deserve to know that. The problem is not the media reporting it, its the fact there is something to report....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    I don't want the leader of my country to be the guy who is a heavy drinker heavy smoker and looks like the kind of guy who will always buy his round. I want the intelligent one. Lad points mean nothing to me when it comes to who manages the country. I am certainly not voting for Farage. The others are useless but the lesser of two evils as far as I'm concerned. If I can choose between an Oxford educated man who's stuck up and out of touch as hell and a guy who just comes across as shady but more friendly, I would go for Oxford any day.
    I don't know anything about this Farage guy, but to me it looks like you're saying because he drinks and smokes therefor he is unqualified or something? Does that make him less intelligent? =/ That's really shortsighted dude. You sure don't sound intelligent by saying this.

    How about you pit both dudes against each other and decide based on their proposals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sting View Post
    Not saying you guys should leave the EU, that's a bad call, but please don't vote these idiots into power. Brussels is swiftly becoming a cesspool of bureaucracy and money grabbing.
    I believe in the EU being in British best interests, and also, even if it were not, I agree with the reasons it was originally founded, to prevent war in Europe (esp given the recent ukraine/russia situation).

    I think the EU needs reform, but I believe we do that from inside, that if we leave, we lose any influence and are basically shooting ourselves in the foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    If someone can easily be replaced by a minimum wage employee, maybe they weren't worth all that much in the first place...
    I totally understand what you mean but they are only employing polish on minimum wage x 2 for 1 person they lay off.
    They then spend 4-6 months training the 2 new guys to be at the same level almost as the person they layed off. All while still paying minimum wage.
    The problem is they are allowed to do it I think more than anything.
    They are not easily replaceable due the then 6 months of training that takes away from getting the job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    According to the latest opinion polls ukip will get 31% in the EU election. So their message reaches most britons and their support will keep growing until they break free from the oppression of Europe.
    God i hope not, having conservatives in power for even longer than they already are would be torture... they should change the system so you vote for preference ie. 1. labour 2. lib dem 3. conservative etc then the party with the least score wins >.<

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