"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."
go read their manifesto (yeah farage says he has not got one, but strangely enough there are 2 on their website, and the previous elections one is still around if you search for it).
These are all things UKIP have themselves said or put in a document.
For god sake, learn about the damm party you vote for. Dont vote single issue its moronic.
The problem is tha jingoitic xenophobic knee jerk reactions are far easier, takes less thought, and can follow a "but <insertauthorityfigurehere> told me so!"
Even if the authority in question is lying or telling halftruths to serve an agenda.
UKIP, Sweden Democrats, France National Party, and pretty much every Facist- Right Wing Socialist whatever mix on the ries in Europe.
According to the latest opinion polls ukip will get 31% in the EU election. So their message reaches most britons and their support will keep growing until they break free from the oppression of Europe.
Last edited by Cybran; 2014-05-11 at 02:55 PM.
Just gonna leave this here:
I'm voting Article 50 from the Netherlands.
so? there are extremists on both sides.
Treat any party's claims with skepticism. I'm not saying people should not be anti-eu, even though I am pro, I am saying they should not be willfully fucking ignorant on what UKIP actually stand for other than on one issue.
Also, no one wants us to leave the common market, and that would require us to subscribe to most EU regulation anyway, I'd rather be in the room with a seat (and veto and rebate) at the table, than outside subject to whatever is decided and still paying for access...leaving the EU actually makes us less democratically accountable.
victimised? point a camera at them or let them lose on social media and they some out with sexist, racist comments....you cant seam to stop them.
No, they are a political party, up until now they were a protest vote, no one cared. Now they claim to be mainstream, so they are subject to the same scrutiny that other parties get. The problem is they have far more fruitcakes in their party than most, and the public deserve to know that. The problem is not the media reporting it, its the fact there is something to report....
I don't know anything about this Farage guy, but to me it looks like you're saying because he drinks and smokes therefor he is unqualified or something? Does that make him less intelligent? =/ That's really shortsighted dude. You sure don't sound intelligent by saying this.
How about you pit both dudes against each other and decide based on their proposals?
I believe in the EU being in British best interests, and also, even if it were not, I agree with the reasons it was originally founded, to prevent war in Europe (esp given the recent ukraine/russia situation).
I think the EU needs reform, but I believe we do that from inside, that if we leave, we lose any influence and are basically shooting ourselves in the foot.
I totally understand what you mean but they are only employing polish on minimum wage x 2 for 1 person they lay off.
They then spend 4-6 months training the 2 new guys to be at the same level almost as the person they layed off. All while still paying minimum wage.
The problem is they are allowed to do it I think more than anything.
They are not easily replaceable due the then 6 months of training that takes away from getting the job done.