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  1. #61
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...4&target=166.2

    even with a variety of pets, all are getting exactly same number of hits for me...
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  2. #62
    Checked ~20 of my own logs, for me tallstrider is the less reliant stampede pet against Missiles (often doing 2 hits while other pets do 10+). Wyrmm is totally random but more often bad than good.
    Sample

    Against mines, my worst pet is Water Strider. (Sporebat was once at 2 attacks)
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    Quite weird I get different results depending on the weapon we killed, isn't it?

  3. #63
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    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...3&end=10170531

    On the first missile turret I was getting 5.64~ pet melees per second (62 in 11 seconds) with heroism cobra pets+glyph of stampede (missile turret died in 11 seconds because we had 3 hunters up there, it died about halfway across the conveyor, which is why i'm looking at APS and not total attacks)

    For the most part, all of the attacks were perfectly in sync, events log and graph (huge peaks are when all 5 pets attack, valleys are inbetween)

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...=1&view=events

    Does anyone have WarcraftLogs of heroism+stampede on the first conveyor with non-cobra pets to compare this to? Don't think you can tell pet model from logs without someone directly telling you. Haste will have a small effect on the amount of attacks our pets get, but i assume we're all within the 15-17k range. I believe I was at 15.5k~ in these logs.

    May as well add a picture of the pets we're referring to each time to make this easier:
    = 5.64 APS (glyphed stampede+heroism)
    Last edited by Trictagon; 2014-06-17 at 09:07 PM.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnug View Post
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...4&target=166.2

    even with a variety of pets, all are getting exactly same number of hits for me...
    My pet damage differential during stampede is definitely due to the number of hits they do.

    Thundermaw - 10+ hits on every stampede

    Thornfang Ravager - 2-3 hits on most stampede's with a couple around 4-5. When this pet is my main pet it doesn't seem to lose attacks, its only when used with stampede.

    I have also used the same pet as Trictagon - Shimmerscale

    The Shimmerscale pet with Rabid does 27 attacks, none of my other pets do this with Rabid on a regular belt. Rabid is up for every belt.

    Anytime I have used this pet with Stampede + Glyph it has done 65-70 (~13+ attacks per pet), which is what you should expect excluding Bloodlust/Heroism.
    Last edited by rustyboy; 2014-06-18 at 03:08 AM.

  5. #65
    Easily soloable after the itemlevel upgrades on 10 man, using 4 on 25 man still though.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Bwee View Post
    Easily soloable after the itemlevel upgrades on 10 man, using 4 on 25 man still though.
    You won't be able to say "It's easy to solo" on 10 man heroic until it can be solo'd without trinket procs. With trinket procs people on 560 gear can solo it. Well geared players can do it without trinket procs but it requires every cooldown they have to do it and can sometimes be inconsistent because stampede seems to have issues when using certain types of pets.

  7. #67
    I am 100% certain I could solo all 4 belts on 10m
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  8. #68
    It also depends which weapon you kill. If your guild does missiles, 2nd belt will slow you down since missiles is the last one.

    Mines is easier but saying it's ´easy´ is misleading.

  9. #69
    I never said it was easy, just doable.
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  10. #70
    Our other hunter is soloing it, and says it's a cakewalk even without good trinkets' procs. He fails maybe 1 out of 10/15 tries.

  11. #71
    ITT - "Yeah you can totally solo all of them". Anyone actually have logs?


    I could see Soviett's order working, using 3 different pets to ensure rabid each belt along with a pot on 3 or 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by soviett View Post
    1. Prepot and trinkets
    2. Stampede, rapid fire
    3. Bloodlust
    4. AOC trinket should be ready
    5. Skip and kill boss.
    I had pretty big issues with stampede first few attempts using the arcane wyrm serpent, but was fine once I switched to a boar, and from the sounds of it the normal serpent model works well too, plus you get the haste buff.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    ITT - "Yeah you can totally solo all of them". Anyone actually have logs?
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...DzfLZ6#fight=6

  13. #73
    Thanks you. Interesting to see that not only did he solo the belts, he got 5 of them.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    Thanks you. Interesting to see that not only did he solo the belts, he got 5 of them.
    Yeah, he's great. I'm so happy he can do that so I don't have to learn belts. Never went there ^^

  15. #75
    Thanks for the logs, I'm excited to try it out next lockout.
    My problem has been stampede unreliability, but hopefully using the Serpent pet + Stampede glyph will fix that. Even with stampede bugging and no trinket procs I have been able to solo some belts, the new ilvl upgrades are OP.
    I will record my solo attempts next lockout and upload if successful...

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by mediic View Post
    I will record my solo attempts next lockout and upload if successful...
    Good luck, I hate this belt with passion and fail even on normals.
    So glad to have someone who can solo it and I don't have to make myself look dumb and fail every attempt

  17. #77
    Based on the logs this appears to be his CD usage:

    1: Trinket Procs. Could likely prepot here if you do it 10-15 seconds before the pull to make sure its up for 2
    2: Rapid Fire+Pot
    3: Stampede + Rapid Fire?
    4: Trinket procs
    5: Lust+Rapid fire

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    Based on the logs this appears to be his CD usage:

    1: Trinket Procs. Could likely prepot here if you do it 10-15 seconds before the pull to make sure its up for 2
    2: Rapid Fire+Pot
    3: Stampede + Rapid Fire?
    4: Trinket procs
    5: Lust+Rapid fire
    1 - Trinkets + Synapse Springs
    2 - RF + Pot (+ Optional: Blood fury)
    3 - Stampede + Synapse Springs
    4 - AoC
    5 - Bloodlust (+ Optional: Blood fury) + RF
    Last edited by Gayia; 2014-06-21 at 05:16 AM.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by gayia View Post
    1 - Trinkets + Synapse Springs
    2 - RF + Pot (+ Optional: Blood fury)
    3 - Stampede + Synapse Springs
    4 - AoC
    5 - Bloodlust (+ Optional: Blood fury) + RF
    Exackly

    I don't use prepot there, because it's not really needed, trinket procs are enough.
    As Teucer noticed I'm also using Rapid Fire at 3rd belt, it is a bit late because it's not ready when im going in, have to shoot few arcane shots first.
    With this cd rotation I'm able to solo 5 belts without any problem even if i don't get any extra procs.
    I'm also using 3 diffrent serpents pets to have rabid for every belt.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by mediic View Post
    Thanks for the logs, I'm excited to try it out next lockout.
    My problem has been stampede unreliability, but hopefully using the Serpent pet + Stampede glyph will fix that. Even with stampede bugging and no trinket procs I have been able to solo some belts, the new ilvl upgrades are OP.
    I will record my solo attempts next lockout and upload if successful...
    Just finished raid and didn't have any problems with solo'ing the belts as SV other than one minor derp. We decided to try solo healing while we were experimenting so I ended up only needing to kill 4 belts when I planned for 5.
    I haven't had time to look at logs or footage but in a sample size of 3, the stampede glyph + serpent pet seemed to do it's job admirably. Thanks for the tip.

    I will upload video to youtube later during offpeak hours (yay Aussie internet), for now here are the logs:
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&fight=37

    God bless the item level buff, our first full clear in a single raid night (3hrs).

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