Shadow priest thread, discussing the important matters
I have an item question, currently I'm sitting on 16,53% crit (armory value). I recently picked up the blackhand normal staff. Now according to Drye's stat priorities, my current one (which has no crit) is better for AS, but I can't shake the gut feeling that I need the crit.
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In general, you want to go for crit over non crit, but higher ilvl non crit items can be better. Simcraft works out exact stat weights for every stat for a reason, so you can add up everything and see what works out as a higher score. As a general rule of thumb for AS, go for the crit gear unless it is >10 ilvl lower than the non-crit, piece, but it also depends on what secondaries it actually has; for example, mythic kargath offhand (crit/haste) is better than mythic oregorger offhand (versa/mastery) because the secondaries on it are so much worse that the extra amount of them (and int) does not make up for the more valuable crit/haste.
Originally Posted by Zarhym
Yo, what happened to Drye's forums over at H2P? Getting a permissions error when trying to view it now. Is there a new forum?
Old Forum: howtopriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6291
...but really, I believe Drye said he didn't want to keep his guide updated so the mod crew moved it to a private forum while the community (sic?) works on a guide which will stay updated. I'd suspect it'll be back soon enough. In the meantime, based Yvaelle wrote a pretty decent guide on these forums which answers a lot of the basic "how i shot web" Shadow questions.
I think there are a lot of knowledgeable and talented Shadow Priests out there who wouldn't mind helping the community if there was one that was welcoming of new content and encouraged it. Just look at Kilee's guide he just posted. It's not like he wrote it today but he has had it available for a while but never posted it. I also have a draft on my computer for a guide about Shadow which I never posted too. I also had a lot of ideas for my guide but I never shared them. Nothing against Drye and his guide but him removing it could be good for the community.
The 4pc is VERY good for AS. Maintaining a high uptime on it is a big part of playing the spec well. You will want to maintain the set bonus if you can, though of course it always depends on the actual gear choices in question; it's not impossible that huge upgrades would make breaking it a better choice, though rarely (like say normal mode tier vs. mythic warforged off-tier or something).
How do you guys go about Gruul mythic? We've only had about 7 pulls on him, and I suspect he'll die soon anyway as he is quite the joke after the nerfs, but I feel pretty lost on him. The thing is, I want to play COP as I don't like the randomness of AS on singletarget fights. With my COP gear (18% and around 72% mastery) I'm having all kinds of issues at the beginning of the fight. The thing is, I have the beastlord mythic trinket which procs more or less as we hero. That means that while I do get to cast one less Mind Spike per MB, I still break GCD quite badly and it feels really meh in terms of DPS anyway. Whats more, the first petrify always hits right when you are about to reapply DP during the first weaving which also seems to plummet my dps.
We've had one 28% ish attempt (the last of the night ><) and I was around 35k ish, but I feel like I should be pulling much more, and I really do contribute my rather poor opening to it.
I cannot provide you with logs right now, sorry, but I reckon that I'm not the only one running into this particular issue.
Also, sorry if this has been discussed already... Quite a few pages to browse through ><
You can try convincing your guild to reset the boss so you can bank Orbs for the opener (use the Mind Harvest glyph, then switch it out). Other classes may want to do similar things so maybe they'll let you.
If you start with Orbs, you can shift the timing of your DoT-Weave cycles to a more opportune time, and dodge fight mechanics that would interfere. I do something similar on Blackhand occasionally, to avoid being in the middle of a cycle during Demolition.
In general though a purely ST fight like Gruul is probably where SPs are worst at the moment. Don't freak if you're low on the meters, particularly on tries that don't get into execute.
Speaking of which, you may want to consider using Power Infusion over Twist of Fate while you're learning the encounter (see the last few pages for a discussion on that).