Garrisons, another great opportunity missed!

[PomPomPop]

One shouldn't compare the WoW Garrison to player housing from other games which have a different development team, a different engine, a different setting, a different system and so forth. It is TOO different.

I have tried several games which have housing but I haven't tried the Garrison, I can't form an opinion on it... even with all the info given. I need to walk through it on my own computer and try it out to say 'yeah, this is(n't) really fun/what I expected/what I wanted'.
I for one am glad Blizzard is slowly starting to pave the road towards possible player housing and that they are testing different things first rather than smack a house down somewhere and fail at executing it because they don't have the experience for it or the right system. Old engine is old, no matter that they update it with each expansion; stop forgetting that.


Guild housing isn't my cup of tea. The only time I witnessed it personally was in FF14 (through a friend) and even then it felt like the members didn't have much of a hand in having the house... other than having chipped in to get that ridiculous amount of in-game money to buy a decently sized plot. It was bought, the guild master decorated and... that was that. Guild meetings? Only the guild masters and the officers would meet to discuss things and even then they would not use that damn house. They spoke over a linkshell (chat channel) so they could at the same time tend to their own business. It felt useless for the other members.

Player housing can be turned into guild housing if one were to desire it; there is no need to make a guild specific option. The WoWGarrisons and the housing in Wildstar allow people to visit, come around, poke about and what not. In WoWGarrisons it is through a party/raid and in Wildstar it is by assigning other people as a neighbor (or even a roomie). It is the same thing for a different kind of game option because seriously, the difference between the two is still pretty big. Also something people shouldn't forget.

[Tya]

The garrison is a real bad adaption from the SWTOR crafting system.

If you want the original with real companions, and with real companion specific quest chains, play SWTOR.

Yes, SWTOR's companions ought to be good, because they're the closest thing to another player that you're likely to see in that game.

[Deleted]

Yes, SWTOR's companions ought to be good, because they're the closest thing to another player that you're likely to see in that game.

Yes. And there are no dead realms in WoW as well.

So it still would be a plus if you at least had a npc companion while questing in the empty leveling zones.

As people may buy levelups to 90 nowadays.

[Drytoast]

Like Wildstar!
Wildstar looks at this thing called "Garrisons" and scoffs at it. Wildstar housing is soooo much better! It's got everything Garrisons has taken out or skipped, like individual race buildings and being able to freely decorate everything. You really get to place every decor down yourself, but you also have to buy them, find them or earn them.
You can even make dungeon and raid portals outside your home for your entire guild to use.
They've had a lot more development time though, I suppose.

Seeing as how it it's the original developers of wow. I don't know if you remember how innovative wow was back then in comparison to any other mmo the time. I don't think it's coincidence at this point. The just know what the fuck it is the are doing.

[Deleted]

Wildstar is really promising when it comes to housing. Well, ok, it limits raiding to a few only, but everything got it's pro and cons.

Still i think the SWTOR housing and crafting system is better than the Wildstar implementation. And even much better than what mumper tries to implement.

[Deleted]

Guild Garrisons is a retarded idea because only the GM would be able to do anything.

Some features could be locked from GM. Its all about design vs laziness.

Anything would be better than its current single player implementation. Its another nail in the 'community' coffin.

[Zoaric]

Some features could be locked from GM. Its all about design vs laziness.

Anything would be better than its current single player implementation. Its another nail in the 'community' coffin.

So what exactly wouldn't be a guild leader feature? And who would control it?

[Dubplates]

Looking forward to Garrisons. I don't play WoW for player housing, and considering how it's taken this many expansions for Blizzard to implement a feature that's not even dedicated player housing, I don't think many players do either.

I liked the Sunsong Ranch feature not because I was interested in farming, or playing some kind of farming simulator or minigame. I liked it because it gave me materials, and believe it or not, I found myself caring more about Farmer Yoon and his dream of being a farmer than any other NPC in the expansion. I don't play this game for lore, plot, or characters, so that was a pleasant surprise.

If I wanted to play a farming simulator, I would play Harvest Moon.

If I wanted to interior decorate, I would play Animal Crossing.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Ah the 'ol community card... that thing that has always really been contained within guilds.

You know for a fact that the GM of any guild will want things done a certain way. Anyone that does things how they want to will be told to change it or the GM will already have the power to do so.

More or less true. fortunately if it DID turn to be GM stuff only. I'd probably be one of those gms that isn't a selfish asshole( Lead a guild YAY!)

[MinTDH]

You dont HAVE to use every feature the game has to offer, you know.

Think about what "Guild Housing" would look like on the box..
(Guild Housing!*

*only usable by your dickhead GM and Officers)

That'll surely sell an expansion.

And plus, I buy an expansion for its features. Not for my friends to use them and not me.

[Kyux]

How is it a quest hub at all? It is player housing, except made of multiple houses. Instead of buying a teapot you buy an armory. If you want to design a nice home for yourself go play Sims.

[Deleted]

(Guild Housing! *only usable by your dickhead GM and Officers)

Yes, it definitely wouldnt be the feature for anti-social players.

[Spirthealer]

After reading peoples hates and likes, all I see is people asking for a portal based housing system which you pick the looks nothing more. Because what you are hating on is a system which asks you to make game playing choices.

Also like to add, none of us have beta so none of us know what this system is rely going to behold for us the players, I do still hope we can pick the zone we place it in.