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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    Im quite exited for Wildstar. I may not even Raid, but the dungeons and pvp are really fun imo, and I like the fact that it has the same cartoon style as wow, but looks really completely different.

    I think Wildstar looks good too, but it would take have to be something extraordinary to take me away from this game. I don't know, I don't really like the races, even though they are innovative, classes are sorta similar to what we have here, but the world looks amazing. Then again, I like to enjoy Warcraft universe, and how all the races combined make it what it is, along with history, and depth itself.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Mossrono View Post
    I think Wildstar looks good too, but it would take have to be something extraordinary to take me away from this game. I don't know, I don't really like the races, even though they are innovative, classes are sorta similar to what we have here, but the world looks amazing. Then again, I like to enjoy Warcraft universe, and how all the races combined make it what it is, along with history, and depth itself.
    It's a good thing for me because I'm sick to death of wow, and I'm just going to play Wildstar very casually as well. I don't even want to get addicted to it.

  3. #263
    I just got invested in WoW. I am almost completely self dependent. I have a good chunk of gold to sit on. I mean everything is good. When I try these other MMO's even if they are good it is a uphill battle. I just can reclaim what I have in WoW in another game. Sure some of it is the people I know in the game world but most of it is about what I have worked for and can't walk away from. It takes a long time in another game to beat 10 years of work. I don't want to put that 10 years in another game.

  4. #264
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    wow has become the virtual life for many people over the years. imagine spending 10 years in this world, creating bonds with people, maybe even fall in love occasionally.
    im not calling these people "sick" or anything, dont even go there! this is perfectly normal human behaviour, to get attached to something more and more, the more time and effort you invest into it.
    wow itself has become a hobby for many people, not the "gaming" itself. im sure many people who play wow for many years, dont even like playing games in general - they just enjoy playing wow and thats it.
    also if you reference wow in real-life then theres almost nobody who has never heard of it, so it can also help as an icebreaker in conversations out in the real social life.

    thats kind of my opinion on this matter, maybe somebody thinks alike or thinks that this sounds reasonable? maybe the opposite ^^

    i am btw not one of them, but i am a little jealous of people who established a well working virtual life inside of wow. i had also something like that going for the duration of vanilla, but it slowly derailed and broke apart in bc (not because of bc, just bc as a timeframe) and it left me demotivated to never try and restart it... sadly^^
    Last edited by Ghul; 2014-05-29 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zka View Post
    New MMOs often go in one of these directions:

    1) hey, let's copy WoW! See Rift... WoW clones always suck, because you know, if you like WoW, then you will play WoW and not an unpolished clone. On the other hand if you don't like WoW, you won't play something that looks and feels like WoW, because you don't like that. Simple, isn't it? Of course some people who stopped wow may end up in such MMOs, but clones will never ever come anything close to WoW.

    2) hey, let's NOT copy WoW! See hmmm lots of things, like ESO, Wildstar. This is when things work in a stupid way just because the logical way would be too much like WoW. The result is something that feels forced.

    The genre isn't as popular as it was ~10 years ago, also it's already saturated - it's hard to come up with something fresh and original and attract lots of users. I've tried lots of games after WoW but they were mostly lackluster. The only MMO that was appealing was EVE Online.
    Out of interest what things do you feel were "stupid changes" in Wildstar and ESO just to be different than WoW?

  6. #266
    New MMOs are bad because of 2 reasons:
    1. Laziness. Call it however you want: lack of budget, lack of time, lack of care, etc
    2. "We're doing it right". Not the 1st time an MMO dev company strayed away from the successful pattern because they thought their idea of game features were better than the already beaten path, and failed because it turned out they really weren't doing it better at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Lockdown View Post
    New MMOs are bad because of 2 reasons:
    1. Laziness. Call it however you want: lack of budget, lack of time, lack of care, etc
    2. "We're doing it right". Not the 1st time an MMO dev company strayed away from the successful pattern because they thought their idea of game features were better than the already beaten path, and failed because it turned out they really weren't doing it better at all.
    its actually not that cheap and easy to make a very good mmo-game, and thus many things get set off as "lazyness" and "bad design-decisions" when in fact it was just beyond the capabilities of the game-studio, to do any better than what they did.

    talent is something that not everybody has and not all game-studios do have talented people in every aspect of the designprocess. remember, they are basically ordinary people like you and me, are you a total badass-expert in your job?

    and the community whos constantly bashing the studio for every single little slip up, thats also something that not everybody can handle.
    blizzard has tons of experience in dealing with this, because they make online games since it was possible to do so.
    Last edited by Ghul; 2014-05-29 at 05:27 PM.

  8. #268
    WoW seems to be going backwards in my opinion. They were releasing content at a decent rate during MoP, then suddenly they stop releasing stuff. The game is getting old and stale and without frequent updates. I've been enjoying marvel heroes and can't wait to try raiding in that game.

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    I played EVE for awhile, and also a Pirates MMO.

    After I stopped playing those, I really felt I had wasted my game time, game time where I could have been doing something in WOW that I could keep. I play WOW for Achievements, that is what is important to me. So I do get to keep everything I do in an expansion, as an Achievement.
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  10. #270
    After I accepted that all of my video game "time" and "investment" will one day disappear, I was ok with leaving WoW. I mean WoW will end one day (probably sooner rather than later), and all peoples mounts, titles, etc will disappear.

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    Honestly I think it is both, We have so much time invested in WoW & rather not start over in another MMO. But also the other MMO has so many problems or doesn't have the Quality of Life changes WoW has. Sometimes the MMO is bad, but people are so bent on trying to find something better than WoW (Which can only be based on opinion not fact).

    That people hype up new MMOs & than they don't seem to be as great as others hoped after release, we have seen this happen multiple times. Some really expect this new MMO to come out & pull everyone from WoW to this New MMO & than when it doesn't, people abandon it thinking it failed yet it never really did. Just the interest in the game is so small compared to WoW.

    Really most MMOs that have come are good, but they do have a reputation of dying out after release & small niche communities sticking around while those communities become so hostile towards WoW players & maybe that is a reason why people leave them & come back to WoW. Many people would love to have multiple MMOs to play, but their are people out their that just have this hostility for WoW players thinking their better people for not playing WoW.

    But really I feel after awhile though those communities become really chill & the people who plagued those communities eventually leave & wait for the next MMO, so they can strike again & hope that their dream comes true. I see the same thing happening with Wildstar. At first the community will be so hostile to anyone who is a WoW player or other MMOs players. But eventually the community will shed of those toxic people & the game will withhold a respectful niche community. Like GW2, SWTOR & FF14.
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    Nope. I enjoy gw2 much more then wow, mostly because it makes you play with less people.
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    Currently playing WoW, Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion and Dark Souls 2.

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