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    why does runescape have legacy servers but wow doesnt?

    The devlopers of runescape realized that maybe not everyone would like the new runescape so they allow people to play Runescape 2007 and runescape classic still.

    I dont even play runescape but why doesnt wow do legacy servers like Jagex does for Runescape why are they so against it?

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    Blizzard no longer has the core of the old game, so they couldn't recreate it exactly. Also the only people who would actually play it are a very small percentage of players.

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    Wow is subscription based, so players would demand support and patching for the legacy server as well, giving them a huge additional workload while getting very little in return.

    Legacy servers would not attract new players, and since there would not be any new content for them it would likely have a very low player-retention rate in the long term.

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    Also to add, the Runescape legacy servers are gradually dying in population because there's nothing new. Just like it would be with WoW legacy servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyyn View Post
    Also the only people who would actually play it are a very small percentage of players.
    And yet they're still producing heroic raids (and Mythic in the expansion.)
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    Do you realize how large of a segregation that does to the player base?

    If you look at any video about RS3/07 you will see plenty of people saying their version is the best.... calling out the others constantly.

    Not to mention, when Jagex brought out 07 servers, they said there would be NO updates to the game besides minor bug fixes, but now they're updating it adding in new content which a lot of RS3 players would like to see added into the main game (bosses, minigames).

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    People paying a sub would demand a bug free server with full support. It's not worth the trouble even if they could get it completely working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    And yet they're still producing heroic raids (and Mythic in the expansion.)
    Heroic/Mythic raiding is a part of the "eSport" of WoW. I personally don't care for it but it is much more valuable than the gimmick of "Legacy servers" that would last maybe several months, at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    And yet they're still producing heroic raids (and Mythic in the expansion.)
    They have never produced exclusive raids for heroic or mythic raiding. They have produced raids for the whole player-base and implemented different difficulty settings to accommodate as many people as possible.

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    Just though I'd add that the '07 Runescape server requires membership to Runescape, it's not free to access.

    They had a poll a while back determining whether or not they would do the '07 server and this was ONLY because they happened to have a backup and a lot - far more than wow - of players really wanted to go back to its roots.

    After the poll was guaranteeing it would be a thing, the results were then used to determine how well kept it would be / who could access it. The results ended up being member's only access with a dedicated team to applying fixes and updates that the community votes on via the Runescape '07 website.

    And to the people saying that it's dying, it's actually doing very well, not as well as the main game obviously but still very well.

    I repeat one more time that this server was ONLY possible because they happened to have a backup of their servers from August 2007. Which comparing '07 runescape to WoW classic, WoW would take a LOT more to have been backed up entirely enough for a separate server with just that version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfConcordDawn View Post
    The devlopers of runescape realized that maybe not everyone would like the new runescape so they allow people to play Runescape 2007 and runescape classic still.

    I dont even play runescape but why doesnt wow do legacy servers like Jagex does for Runescape why are they so against it?
    50% of Runescapes playerbase, approximately, plays "2007" Runescape. It is a game that has lost over 90% of its playerbase in the last few years.

    50% of WoW players, even ones that played back in 2004-2005 aren't demanding legacy servers.

    I've played WoW since its release, before WoW I played Runescape. I have played Runescape a few times since I quit nearly 10 years ago and it is simply for the sake of nostalgia. Once that effect wears off and you realize you are playing a shitty unpolished game you end up quitting it again. If WoW made Legacy servers they would die after a few months. The reason "2007" Runescape was so popular for for PvP purposes because the game had much less gear, prayers, abilities, etc and it was one of the more entertaining times in the game.

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    Just though I'd add that the '07 Runescape server requires membership to Runescape, it's not free to access.
    It is free now, they changed in a few weeks back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novx View Post


    It is free now, they changed in a few weeks back.
    Ah, Haven't noticed that thanks for the update.

    Everything else in my post however still stands

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    Reason is cause Blizzard is smarter to leave nostalgia as nostalgia and not ruine it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    And yet they're still producing heroic raids (and Mythic in the expansion.)
    Which is new content that people buy expansions and pay money for months on end for. Not the case for TBC servers which you would play for a few months, see how stagnant it was and completely stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyyn View Post
    Blizzard no longer has the core of the old game, so they couldn't recreate it exactly. Also the only people who would actually play it are a very small percentage of players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyyn View Post
    Also to add, the Runescape legacy servers are gradually dying in population because there's nothing new. Just like it would be with WoW legacy servers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Reason is cause Blizzard is smarter to leave nostalgia as nostalgia and not ruine it.
    Those fine two people said it quite well.

    I don't think there would be anything fitting for a business plan for old servers either. Many may claim to have heard of lively servers of old nature, but those numbers aren't equal to the actual value of having it running.

    As well, would demand a wide area of over-support needed. Old versions of wow (jue like new, just more) has errors, a lot of them. Wouldn't run in good standing if they had to set teams to fix them or to remake vanilla from old/updated files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novx View Post
    It is free now, they changed in a few weeks back.
    A 2 week trial for newly created accounts is hardly free.
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    Because Runescape is not WoW. The End.

    There, was that so hard......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyyn View Post
    Blizzard no longer has the core of the old game, so they couldn't recreate it exactly.
    Stop repeating this bullshit. No company in the universe will ever delete their code. They couldn't recreate it exactly because they don't want to invest in that shit, because the nostalgic crap would disappear for most people long before they reach max level. Then there's the problem of what moment of the expansion to recreate? Because people have different opinions even about the "bezt egzpansion eva, man", which is obviously TBC or WotLK. Some people think that they were much better in the beginning, before the nerf, not to mention the LFG addition, or the catch-up system, or the gearscore era. Yeah, making an end WotLK server would revive the gearscore, it's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosotti View Post
    Stop repeating this bullshit. No company in the universe will ever delete their code. They couldn't recreate it exactly because they don't want to invest in that shit, because the nostalgic crap would disappear for most people long before they reach max level. Then there's the problem of what moment of the expansion to recreate? Because people have different opinions even about the "bezt egzpansion eva, man", which is obviously TBC or WotLK. Some people think that they were much better in the beginning, before the nerf, not to mention the LFG addition, or the catch-up system, or the gearscore era. Yeah, making an end WotLK server would revive the gearscore, it's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novx View Post
    It is free now, they changed in a few weeks back.
    It isn't anymore then. I just tried logging in and it said I needed a member account.

    Unless I can't use my original account you still need to be a memeber to log into it.

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    Because no one plays runescape and reliced servers just happen to be there.
    Over 200k people play Runescape last reported. If Runescape didn't have people playing then they wouldn't be rolling out new content in RS3 or making other games.
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