16-Year-Old Sentenced to 1-15 Yrs in Maximum Security Prison

[Dendrek]

Love it when we treat minors like adults because we're mad at them.

This pretty much guarantees he'll be of little value to society for the rest of his life.

Nah..

He'll be fodder for more anger when he does eventually get out after being completely fucked up by the system and gets into trouble again. People will be back here saying, "See? His sentence wasn't harsh enough."

If riling up vengeful conservatives isn't valuable then why is Fox News so successful?

[Stop Pretending]

No. Committing a crime doesn't mean there's no chance you'll ever be a net positive for society. Sticking you in a maximum security prison at 16 though is a fantastic way to make sure you'll be spending most of your life as a criminal though.

Again, with felony convictions of armed robbery, among other felony convictions, he has no real chance. He was going to destined to lead a life of crime once he started down his path, no matter what age.

[Wells]

Again, with felony convictions of armed robbery, among other felony convictions, he has no real chance. He was going to destined to lead a life of crime once he started down his path, no matter what age.

So actively make it more likely? What kind of reasoning is this?

[Captainn]

We go way too soft on kids. He should be used as an example as well as everyone after him.

[Wells]

We go way too soft on kids.

Juvenile crime rates are down.

[-aiko-]

Again, with felony convictions of armed robbery, among other felony convictions, he has no real chance. He was going to destined to lead a life of crime once he started down his path, no matter what age.

Got any studies to back up this claim?

[Aitch]

I'm surprised, MMO-C. I was expecting people to argue the sentence should be harsher, or wishing that a homeowner shot him dead.

I find it's usually 50/50 whether the mmo-c consensus will side with the perp or the law in these kinds of threads.

[Stop Pretending]

So actively make it more likely? What kind of reasoning is this?

Again, who is going to hire someone with these kind of convictions? Not even McDonalds, he had no chance on life once he started down this path. He ruined his life, not the judicial system.

[Dendrek]

We go way too soft on kids. He should be used as an example as well as everyone after him.

America's harsh criminal justice system has certainly done wonders at lowering recidivism rates and stopping violent crimes.

[Wells]

Again, who is going to hire someone with these kind of convictions? Not even McDonalds, he had no chance on life once he started down this path. He ruined his life, not the judicial system.

You're really missing the point. Is he a high risk individual? Sure. Does locking a 16 year old away in maximum security prison for years and years do anything but make it more likely he'll reoffend? No. You're making the very thing you're complaining about more likely to occur.

[Stop Pretending]

Got any studies to back up this claim?

I'm sure fortune 500 companies are beating down the doors to hire convicted felons. Oh wait..

[snackfeat]

Should have been lifetime.

[-aiko-]

I'm sure fortune 500 companies are beating down the doors to hire convicted felons. Oh wait..

1. He's a minor.

2. There are employment programs.

[araine]

sure fire way to make sure you fail on this person forever. but than the right wingers will just say we should have executed him earlier and problem solved

[FlyingWoodchuck]

I'm sure fortune 500 companies are beating down the doors to hire convicted felons. Oh wait..

http://www.businessinsider.com/crimi...around-2012-12 Here's a few former convicts with a range of crimes who turned their lives around quite successfully found by a quick google search. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick in your ignorance to rush to conclusions?

[araine]

We go way too soft on kids. He should be used as an example as well as everyone after him.

And we get nothing good out of that just saying

[Barnabas]

We go way too soft on kids. He should be used as an example as well as everyone after him.

That's why he got 1-15 years while the other people that did the same crime only got 180 or 210 days. So he is the example here.

[artemishunter1]

You're really missing the point. Is he a high risk individual? Sure. Does locking a 16 year old away in maximum security prison for years and years do anything but make it more likely he'll reoffend? No. You're making the very thing you're complaining about more likely to occur.

You are assuming if he is given lighter sentence he will not reoffend. People personality is next to impossible to modify. Once we are set, we are set. That knowledge is printed on EVERY psych book. So, this trend has to be quite mainstream to be printed on books that every student is going to learn. I do not mean entry level books but actuall psych nursing books.

[Fat Mac]

Good for him, hopefully he goes to jail and is not still an idiot by the time he gets out.

hes not going to jail, hes going to prison. BIG HUGE MASSIVE FUCKING DIFFERENCE

[Wells]

You are assuming if he is given lighter sentence he will not reoffend.

I"m assuming if he gets a sentence that focuses more on rehabilitating him into a useful member of society he's less likely to reoffend. Maximum security prison for a child does nothing but make them worse.