Wear jeans at work all summer...if I donate $75 to "Christ based" school?

[BLCalliente]

I don't care about the donation and what it is for, but why are there such rules that those that donate gets to wear jeans, while those who doesn't don't? How are they going to see if you donate or not?

You get an armband.... I mean a little sign you can stick outside your office/cube that says "I donated!" or some shit.

Final resolution to this: HR manager came to my office and shut the door and said I could give $75 towards the next charity thing (adult literacy in Detroit) and I could still have the little sign and wear jeans like everybody else. Win/win.

[Zoaric]

The problem with anti-religion hate-mongers in the US is they assume all Christians are Protestant or evangelical.

What's wrong with Protestants?

OT: I hope they do let you donate to another charity, even being Christian, I don't
really think it's right to pressure someone into giving to a charity that they don't
even believe in.


EDIT: Well that works, glad you can still help someone out and wear your jeans!
(Despise the things meself, but to each his/her own. )

[nyc81991]

I went to a Catholic high school. Other than a religion class and attending mass once a week, it offered a far superior alternative to any local public school. Religious schools aren't all bad. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for an alternative charity to donate to though, as religion and education is a touchy issue for some.

I went to Catholic school when I was young and it was terrible. Public schools tend to have a lot more resources and handle people with different needs better.

[Maggibesti]

I'd rather quit a job then pay 1$ for anything related to religion.

Also this doesn't sound legal. "Oh hey, unless you give 75$ to a school that teaches you about lying. You can't wear jeans."

And if it's not a part of the contract for you not to be able to wear jeans. There's nothing forcing you to not wear jeans.

[OzoAndIndi]

Good grief... $10 and you can wear them for a month would be one thing, but trying to use the option to wear jeans to get people to give up that much money supporting a school focused on a particular religion?

Stupid thing is, this is likely private school, isn't it? Prob funded by tuition and junk like the rest of them. That money would be better off given to a public school that is in an underprivileged area and lacks enough funding. I wonder what they'd do if you donated to a school like that, showed them proof and asked if it would be OK if that counted. HMMMmmm....

Might really back themselves into a corner on that one.

[darkwarrior42]

You get an armband.... I mean a little sign you can stick outside your office/cube that says "I donated!" or some shit.

Final resolution to this: HR manager came to my office and shut the door and said I could give $75 towards the next charity thing (adult literacy in Detroit) and I could still have the little sign and wear jeans like everybody else. Win/win.

Interesting.... the fact that he did it behind closed doors implies (at least to me) that the culture in the company would not react well, but either the company wants to offer you an alternative or is worried about claims of religious discrimination.

Not disagreeing that it's a win/win resolution, just commenting.... if it were me, I would not make a big deal out of who you donated to. I wouldn't lie either, but if everyone else wants to assume you donated to the same cause, let them. (Alternatively, if someone else is having similar reservation, you could discreetly point them to the same HR person who helped you out.)

Similarly, I have never once lied to my very Christian extended family about my religion... I just have not said anything, and being the type of people they are, they assume that I'm Christian just like them. My parents and my sister know, and don't care, but I haven't felt the need to enlighten anyone else, as it makes no practical difference to anything we do.

[BLCalliente]

Yeah I plan to keep it on the DL (aside from posting about it on the Internet. Lol)

[Adam Jensen]

We can see evidence of microevolution within a lifetime- look at selective breeding. The refinement of features.

Selective breeding is artificial selection. Evolution works on natural selection.

No amount of crossbreeding in dogs, however, has ever produced a cat. Crossbreeding even a donkey and horse results in a non-reproductive cross.

Evolution doesn't work that way. However, given a population of dogs, after successive adaptations to their environment, their particular species might evolve after many generations into a new species of dog. They will NEVER become cats, because evolution does not work that way.

The idea of 'evolution' as anything more than a sieving action is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

The "second law" doesn't apply here, the sun provides the energy for evolution to occur, natural selection provides the reason why we get increased complexity.

Then there's the lack of any transitional creatures in the fossil record- only 'finished products'.

Every fossil that has ever existed is in fact a "transitional fossil." Evolution is like a gradient. When going from one species to the next, the child is always the same species as its direct parents, but might be a separate species as some ancestor hundreds or thousands of generations past. Besides that we have in fact found a fossil, tiktaalik roseae that does in fact appear to be the link between amphibians and fish.

Looking at any given higher animal, virtually all of its' bodily systems had to evolve at the same time. Blood is pointless without a heart, a heart is pointless with out a brain, lungs, etc. That's not even accounting for the time it would take to form behaviors.

Watch Cosmos, Neil deGrasse Tyson had an interesting episode on the evolution of the eye, an oft claimed "too complex" organ for evolution. The evolution of the heart and blood I'm sure was a similar process.

You are denying the most profound, the most supported, the strongest (evidence-wise) theory of biology because of junk science.

[Meat]

Stupid thing is, this is likely private school, isn't it? Prob funded by tuition and junk like the rest of them. That money would be better off given to a public school that is in an underprivileged area and lacks enough funding. I wonder what they'd do if you donated to a school like that, showed them proof and asked if it would be OK if that counted. HMMMmmm....

Might really back themselves into a corner on that one.

State laws prohibit directly giving money to a public school General fund. The local school districts can have local bond millage for specific projects or upgrades.
This is in Michigan, the law was made so that the richer suburbs would not supplement their funds to exasperate the already massive gap in school performance between the suburban school systems and Detroit.

[IzoGray]

It's because of this attitude that you need Jesus in your life. Maybe stop hating so much and things will go smoother for you.

[TirielWoW]

Isn't illegal to then allow it to people that pay money to a certain charity?

No. As far as I know, private companies can set any dress code they want (unless it's indecent or racially charged, etc).

[AeneasBK]

You get an armband.... I mean a little sign you can stick outside your office/cube that says "I donated!" or some shit.

Final resolution to this: HR manager came to my office and shut the door and said I could give $75 towards the next charity thing (adult literacy in Detroit) and I could still have the little sign and wear jeans like everybody else. Win/win.

Sounds like a very reasonable HR manager

[sethman75]

Its a simple request, either you do or you dont.

Who do you think you are to change the rules to suit yourself?

If you dont like, dont do it..simple.