I highly doubt this actually happened the way OP describes it
I asked in Warlock thread and someone confirmed it, also posted Youtoob Video.
He had no Timeless buffs btw. PvE Gear = much faster killing than my measy PvP 550 shite.
You cant make PvP Gear stronger in this Expansion.
PvE has four (4) different levels (LFR/Flex/Normal/Heroic), including Warforged (+8) and Upgrades (+16) while PvP has one (1) (Conquest points) & no upgrades.
Unless you... well I dont want an infraction. Lets see... unless you never finished the 2nd Grade, you see how PvP Gear cant be better in this Expansion.
Earlier In this post I said my mage in full 550 gear was fine against PVE geared players. I have since dont some dueling against the best geared players I could find. All were Almost full heroic warforged or close to it. I was utterly destroyed. Destro was probably the worst as he 3-4 shot me without chaos bolt. During a few duels I was killed before I got a global just to ice block.
Should make PvP power only calculate damage/healing on players and not at all on NPCs
Inversely agil/int/str should only calculate damage healing on NPCs and not at all on players.
Would have to remove agil/str/int from PvP gear as well.
Problem solved. Gear is only good for its respective role.
Last edited by Starsinn; 2014-06-17 at 05:32 PM.
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The best pve gear has more potential in the world then the best pvp gear. I don't see why this is still being debated. In WoD (The current focus of developers) They are adjusting this to give the best PvP gear the advantage in world PvP. I honestly don't see why this is still debated. The fundamental changes they have planned for WoD that will bring about this are not simple they wont be added in some hot fix. Discussing drastic changes outside of what they have planned as some kind of short term fix just seems crazy to me. Most pvp servers faction ratio's are one sided so the world PvP that comes to mind is Censures on timeless isle. non censured player can use 3 very large item buffs that censured players can not. They can also gain another HUGE buff from the shrines. A player in full pvp gear with these buffs should do fine against a censured full pve'd gear player I would say they are pretty even.
Related to this thread but I recently chased down and killed a WW Monk with his coin buff up on the Timeless isle, on a PVE server. He raged at me beginning with a massive laugh "HAHAHAH" in caps to bandage his ego. Then he proceeded to lose his temper about the fact that I killed him with PVE gear, and blabbered something about how PVP Power (on his prideful weapons) doesn't work in the open world, threw a few insults and then put me on ignore before I could reply.
Why do people even bother putting themselves into a PVP situation if they aren't prepared to come up against decent geared people? My Warrior is only at 559 Ilvl with an upgraded Flex weapon so we're not talking serious business here, we're talking about a slacking casual with a cloak and a few raid drops. Truthfully I only killed him because he tried to run away instead of fight, he'd have probably killed me.
I do think that sometimes it's really the case that PVP'ers are making excuses when there isn't a genuine case? I also have a 540 geared PVP Warrior and though I'd never stand a chance against a Heroic Geared PVE'er in the open world, I kill PVE geared guys all the time and mostly because they have no idea what to do in a PVP situation, and I'm fairly certain my 540 PVP Warrior could kill my 559 PVE Warrior.
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Most people think they got owned by "gear" when in fact someone with full isle buffs (namely Chi-Ji or Yulon) blew them up.
550pvp gear imo is about as good as 575-580 pve gear. Sure the random 14/14 with 580++ gear has an advantage but with smart play you can get around that.
Heroic pve gear from the first 8-10 bosses in SoO means that you show up to raid every week not that you are any good at all.
I was farming coins on my 588 Feral Druid and suddenly I was jumped by 2 Hunters and a 3rd came shortly after. I demolished all 3 of them and I really suck at Feral PvP. No skill tbh, just my gear carrying me.
It is the reason I don't step foot in TB or WG. A warlock with a million health critting me with incinerates for 200k? please.
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my pve gear (589) doesnt even come close to full prideful(550) on the isle. the numbers you can pull on people are ridiculous, let alone if you pick up buffs like the +25% dmg
the only way "world pvp balance" would work is if they phase everything outside arenas to fixed stats, which wouldn't make much sense.
the only real balance is that pvers with gear 1) dont care if they die to someone 2) are pretty bad pvp
Best thing to do is to have a combination. Some PVE gears are BIS for WPVP. Others are still less superior than PVP gear.