I'd just be happy to see it gone altogether, a blank slate in it's place so we're not balanced around it in some weird theoretical situation that never actually happens that leads us to sucking in any normal situation. The row is 2 universal talents, and a talent ignored by 2 specs and taken by necessity for the third. Why not just have 3 universally useful talents?
It wasn't demo that was abusing passive MF, that was Destruction.
- "I throw away all the rules of acceptable conduct during battle; near the ruptures I throw away all the accepted ideas of how the natural world is supposed to behave. Targeting isn’t even a consideration - I will be engaging my enemy at arm’s length."
But, for me, while we have had a few "QoL" changes, even if theytook some skill away, why are they not focusing on our aoe? Could it be sheer laziness and not wanting to do much for the Lock class? Yea, it could be. But, with mythic raiding, our lowered survivability, our lowered movement, and still they aim abilities at us, why are we the only class to need to be in melee in order to aoe. It makes no sense, with the way they are trying to make ranged. I do not know if we were overlooked, or they remember the backlash from last time they changed it.... which we only yelled back at simply because we had MF during those times, but with the current way of things, Demonology might be at the bottom of the list in aoe, as we are not compensated for our movement into melee and out.
i just want aoe drain life back =/ it was my favorite spell ever
Drain life can potentially be upgraded to Harvest Life in Meta and tuned properly.
I too would like to see Demo's AoE less melee focused, but the only way for that to happen is for Hellfire to go.. and I do not want to see that happen... so... melee it is..
1 idea for MF
MF: Hellfire can be cast at any target including self, or simply hellfire source its the pet not the warlock
Other idea for MF
MF: Replaces Hellfire, Drainlife becomes Corrupt Soul(or w/e name),
Caster: Hits all targets in a cone 40y for X%increase damage no longer heals the warlock, channel
Meta: Hits all targets in a cone for 40y for X increased damage, no longer heals the warlock, aura
Last edited by Hellfury; 2014-07-09 at 03:17 PM.
Warlock / IA Operative / Wizard / Engineer
In mop beta, they had replaced with Rain of Fire. Which makes sense, since they did not want us in melee. But, since we had that 500% increase to hellfire through MF (then nerfed to 300%), we still had a good way to do aoe, without going into melee. That was the reason most people saved it. Nostalgia and the ORIGINAL Mf. Now we dont have the Mf. Now your soul reason to save it is because of Nostalgia, and its a shitty spell at that. Hellfire does not do any more damage than any other aoe, rather it does less, and we lose health for it. Stop defending such a worthless spell, because it reminds you of the good old days that was actually useful to kill yourself and save yourself from a repair bill in a wipe.
They can give me Shadowbolt Volley and id be so very happy.
Shadow Bolt Volley would be amazing. I love Hellfire/Immolation conceptionally, but it just isn't practical anymore.
Just a note the "change" to aoe was just of phrasing from radius to area, it didn't actually change anything.
well, they could change it so that your target starts to immolate, doing the dmg that hellfire/immolation aura does now but at a distance and only 1 immolate target at a time. the idea of having to be in melee range as a ranged dps doesnt make much sense to me, i think they need to make it a ranged aoe.
So shadowbolt volley is something most people can get on board with, specially since we have been wanting it since Vanilla. We got it in WoTLK beta, but was taken away... "feeling it was to op". But, it can easily be balanced now. Could be worked into a channel. And then for the Meta Upgrade, Doombolt Volley, instant and nonchanneled for 8 seconds. Visually, I want to be that badass demon shotgunning those bolts out while still throwing out tocs.
MF radius as a passive for hellfire/IA, and perhaps change the MF talent to affect only HoG/CW? Would retain the flavor of hellfire while making it slightly more practical; also, makes MF a fairly attractive talent once again.
Edit: let us not forget the absurdity of carrion swarm with the old MF- cone interrupt & knockback(if it was desired) with a massive radius was a little much.
Last edited by Mokrengar; 2014-07-09 at 10:18 PM.