Even More Bad News for America's Atheists

[Mormolyce]

And I as an atheist/agnostic, wouldn't want to marry a religious person or approve of a religious person being married into my family.
I think you're looking at this too harshly.

I find that a little disturbing.

Religion would not be a factor in my dating or who I approve of marrying into my family. Unless they are bigoted or close-minded or evangelistic - but those three things apply regardless of whether the person is religious or not.

[Kraenen]

Yeah, because the certainty level is reasonably high. If you need to get a lesson in literal Statistics 101, go get it and stop acting like you're raising a point from an informed place.

You're the only one acting like you're coming from an informed place. You don't even know what this "certainty level" is, or what a high level would be.

[Sunseeker]

I'm an atheist, and my wife and her family are Christian. They're not really happy over this, but they know I'm a nice guy and they're happy my wife as someone to treat her well even if I'm not a believer. They're not dicks about it either, so that's cool.

[prwraith]

P values and confidence intervals don't real, shitlord. If you can't prove it like you can prove that 13 is a prime number, I can say it might not be true.

Of course you can say it might not be real. That's never been in question. Just that the might not be true is probably like a 1% chance of being correct, doesn't make it any less possible to be correct though.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

I'm an atheist, and my wife and her family are Christian. They're not really happy over this, but they know I'm a nice guy and they're happy my wife as someone to treat her well even if I'm not a believer. They're not dicks about it either, so that's cool.

That's actually pretty chill. Usually a family will be real nice to you and then try to sneak conversion onto the person in question from my experience.

[Vynestra]

Who cares. Most American Athiests I've met in real life and on the forums could careless from what I've seen.

I am not religious as at all which I guess makes me athiest? Like I know. I am a very scientific person, I like facts and proof. And I've hard arguements against people who throw their religion at me, if you are you going to try to shove your religion down my throat I am going to shove my science right back at it.

The sad thing is that american's love science, except for when it proves their religion wrong, ex: evolution. People love what science brings to them only if it benefits them. WTB science equality D: ...

[Spectral]

I don't really want to drag this out into philosophy, but if you'd like to take a position near to epistemological nihilism, be my guest.

If someone's going to do that though, I'd like them to be very fucking consistent though. Don't bust out the know-nothing bullshit only when it's convenient. Be a know-nothing about everything. Ask how we know that there's actually a place called Mongolia. I mean, I haven't been there. I don't know anyone that's been there. Can I really know that, man? Ask if we know that China's an ancient country rather than a recent invention. Ask if we know if penicillin cures diseases. I mean, there's always the chance that we just happen to administer it right when someone's going to get better anyway.

Basically, be a dick all the time.

[prwraith]

I find that a little disturbing.

Religion would not be a factor in my dating or who I approve of marrying into my family. Unless they are bigoted or close-minded or evangelistic - but those three things apply regardless of whether the person is religious or not.

I'm sort of the same, but I tell women i date up front, that I will under no circumstances join in a bible study, go to church, church related events etc. And as soon as they can't handle that I'm out.

[Thelxi]

I'd be creeped out if I fell in love with someone who DOES believe

[Deleted]

I'm an atheist, and my wife and her family are Christian. They're not really happy over this, but they know I'm a nice guy and they're happy my wife as someone to treat her well even if I'm not a believer. They're not dicks about it either, so that's cool.

How do you feel about them believing you deserve enternal agony in hell after you die?

[Spectral]

Of course you can say it might not be real. That's never been in question. Just that the might not be true is probably like a 1% chance of being correct, doesn't make it any less possible to be correct though.

Yeah, right, like it's even possible that your sarcasm meter is broken. Like that'd ever happen.

[Zoaric]

I'm sure that there's enough atheist assholes out there to fill a small country, but I can't say I've met many.

Wonder what would happen if we rounded up all of the a-hole atheists and monotheists
we could find and quarantined them on their own island... which we of course put cameras
with live video feeds all over.

OT: It's not really that shocking to me, equally yoked and all that. Personally, I'd prefer
someone of some kind of faith similar to my own, but then again I'd prefer a smoking hot
blonde woman with a hint of an accent and an affinity for historic and modern weapons-
but I'll fall for whomever I will, don't make a huge difference in that regard.

[Kraenen]

I don't really want to drag this out into philosophy, but if you'd like to take a position near to epistemological nihilism, be my guest. The simple fact of the matter is that whether or not it is the case, you can Pascal's Wager it and move past the ignorance to accept perception as mostly reflective of reality.

What? I'm just talking about the claim that 49% of americans wouldn't date an atheist, based on the poll/study. I'm not just trying to raise the skeptical "do you really know" basic stuff, I actually wanted to know why your poll trumps anyone who wasn't polled. Because that's how you responded to that one guy that started off this discussion. (I don't get this 'epistemological nihilism' thing, if I'm nihilistic for raising a few questions, your belief in stats must be faith-based).

[Stonecloak]

It's rather simple. All sides just need to accept that the other exists. No matter how different they are.

[Kraenen]

If someone's going to do that though, I'd like them to be very fucking consistent though. Don't bust out the know-nothing bullshit only when it's convenient. Be a know-nothing about everything. Ask how we know that there's actually a place called Mongolia. I mean, I haven't been there. I don't know anyone that's been there. Can I really know that, man? Ask if we know that China's an ancient country rather than a recent invention. Ask if we know if penicillin cures diseases. I mean, there's always the chance that we just happen to administer it right when someone's going to get better anyway.

Basically, be a dick all the time.

Or, the person who thinks he knows everything without reason is the dick. The person who arrogantly goes through life without any skepticism or questioning is not only a dick but foolish because you never really think for yourself. I don't see how a skeptical investigation into knowledge is being a dick, but hey, when you step on people's faith, they tend to get rattled easily.

[Deleted]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...on-in-america/
http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/...erican-public/

a poll of more than 10,000 adults between January and March of this year

a new survey of 10,000 adults nationwide

So, "10000" people were polled. The population of the United States is estimated at around 319 million. 75-80% of that are adults. If you really want to believe that polling 10000 people can give an accurate representation of what 250 million people think, even within an error margin of 20%, then good luck.

I mean, hell... People trust in TV show viewership numbers too, even though they're based on a handful of exemplars.

[prwraith]

Yeah, right, like it's even possible that your sarcasm meter is broken. Like that'd ever happen.

I'm sensing some anger in you today. why umadbro?

[Spectral]

It's rather simple. All sides just need to accept that the other exists. No matter how different they are.

I don't think many people question that there are other people that think different things than them. Did you think this was profound?

[Kraenen]

95% confidence interval according to the site.

Which is by convention (arbitrary) if you've taken stats 101

[Spectral]

I'm sensing some anger in you today. why umadbro?

*shrug*

That was supposed to induce a chuckle. Maybe it didn't. Such is life.