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  1. #841
    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebull View Post
    Still I am bummed that we need to use a talent for Gladiator Resolve. It should be built in imo and you do a quest for it at level 15 I never find a need to switch to battle stance as protection warrior when I need to tank. I see no point in that stance.

    It would be built in with all the restrictions as it currently is. Make it happen
    Quoting my self i know but it seems like we getting it baseline from the patch notes??? Weeeeeeee
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  2. #842
    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebull View Post
    Quoting my self i know but it seems like we getting it baseline from the patch notes??? Weeeeeeee
    Yeah man, I am super interested to know WTF is going on there... I will be pretty excited if we get it baseline. It should also mean a nice DPS increase for Glad Warriors too, as they'd be able to pick up one of the other lvl 100 DPS talents, like Ravager.

  3. #843
    As I said in another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorsarri View Post
    This is simply a tooltip change, this is already on live.

  4. #844
    I'm currently maining monk and want to sometimes play warri at a decent level too(mb reroll too ^^). with my warri i have fury spec and prot as OS. my guildmates use fury/arms, actually i think arms more often. unfortunatly i don't have a 2H weapon to try arms atm (unless 620 acc weap...) so fury/prot is the best choice atm.

    now to my question:
    is arms a must have for warri atm? i remember when i checked several logs where i see like only arms in top100
    where are the strengths for arms and where is fury better? is glad warri an viable option too? if yes, when?

    i guess there is allready an answer on this class forum but i couldn't find it yet. sry for "requestion" :P

    e: i just checked top 10 of HM logs for warriors and every single #1 log is an arms and most top 10s are arms > fury
    if i would draw a conclusion from that point of view.. all i need is arms?
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  5. #845
    Anyone else sticking with gladiator in BRF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philsndude View Post
    I'm currently maining monk and want to sometimes play warri at a decent level too(mb reroll too ^^). with my warri i have fury spec and prot as OS. my guildmates use fury/arms, actually i think arms more often. unfortunatly i don't have a 2H weapon to try arms atm (unless 620 acc weap...) so fury/prot is the best choice atm.

    now to my question:
    is arms a must have for warri atm? i remember when i checked several logs where i see like only arms in top100
    where are the strengths for arms and where is fury better? is glad warri an viable option too? if yes, when?

    i guess there is allready an answer on this class forum but i couldn't find it yet. sry for "requestion" :P

    e: i just checked top 10 of HM logs for warriors and every single #1 log is an arms and most top 10s are arms > fury
    if i would draw a conclusion from that point of view.. all i need is arms?
    Gladiator - Does decent single target damage, and great Cleave damage, decent enough sustained AOE damage but not great burst AOE damage. Of course you could take Bladestorm for burst AOE but then you sacrifice greatly on your single target/cleave damage, and Bladestorm is not as powerful for Gladiator as it is for Fury/Arms. The Execute phase for Gladiator does represent a dps increase but it's very minimal compared to Arms/Fury, and can even lead to a dps loss if not executed well. Still, the spec can do well on pretty much all fights if you plan ahead, it also has great personal survival even though Defensive Stance is not available.

    Arms - The no1 logs of Arms are probably not representitive of a realistic situation, and are also plagued with logs from before Arms mastery got nerfed (the original buff left it hilariously overpowered and Arms Warriors shot to the top of the ranks). Arms Does decent single target (worse than Gladiator in my experience unless the execute phase is kind/long) but the main reason people use Arms is due to amazing sustained AOE in addition to strong burst AOE, and better 2 target cleave than Gladiator. On top of that, if you have adds with low health that sit around you can Execute them for massive damage, even executes with Sweeping Strikes active. Ko'ragh for example is amazing for Arms (and Fury) because of the multiple execute phases and the burst AOE on the adds.

    Fury - The best single target, though in my experience it's very close to Gladiator here. Fury gains great benefits from the Execute phase (though not quite like Arms) and also has great burst AOE, in addition to pretty good sustained AOE (better than Gladiator). My experience with the 2 target cleave of Fury show it to be poor, but I don't have enough experience to comment with much accuracy as I've mostly played Arms/Glad in these situations.



    If you play them well then all 3 specs will do you more than good enough for a non-world first progression guild. For reference, at Ilvl673 my last weeks Butcher kill I played Gladiator and did 33k. On Kargath I took Bladestorm to clear the stands as Gladiator (our tank wanted Mocking Banner) and was able to pull 50k on that fight, and could realistically do much better with a clean kill. Same Ilvl on Brackenspore I did 38k one week as Gladiator (40k as Arms week before that). It's capable, but it's not really the best at anything.
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  7. #847
    Did heroic Foundry last night and killed Gruul, Beastlord, Arnies and attempted Trains. Wasn't what I expected if I'm honest, on Gruul I was second highest melee to a very skilled rogue and on the Arnies I was top dps. However on Beastlord I was getting beaten by two fury warriors who were ~5K ahead of me, on Trains they were ahead again so I ended up using my arms offspec for the extra cleaveyness.

    Does this tally with others experience? Or am I doing something wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Did heroic Foundry last night and killed Gruul, Beastlord, Arnies and attempted Trains. Wasn't what I expected if I'm honest, on Gruul I was second highest melee to a very skilled rogue and on the Arnies I was top dps. However on Beastlord I was getting beaten by two fury warriors who were ~5K ahead of me, on Trains they were ahead again so I ended up using my arms offspec for the extra cleaveyness.

    Does this tally with others experience? Or am I doing something wrong?
    You're not going to beat anyone with Ravager when you're getting addwaves every minute on the dot ( beast/trains ). This should be expected.

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