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    Quote Originally Posted by knightpt View Post
    Unfortunately i think that people who can't get the tier set will miss out a lot on this new gameplay and probably the set bonuses should be in the talent tree for player chosing that kind of "random" gameplay, instead of a tier set.
    The purpose in removing tier from LFR was specifically to encourage people to try out real raiding instead of settling for gaming on a plate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katjezz View Post
    So i watched streams today of the highmaul bosses and did some myself, and Ret is shit.

    Like for real, there are so many bosses where constantly atleast 2 targets are alive, we just cant keep up with the others. Place 1-8 in meters is dominated by Mages Rogue and warriors.
    Got any numbers or logs? Cuz from the people who play ret and actually have numbers to show, ret is a top 5 spec right now on every fight. Granted thats with 4pc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maegor View Post
    Gotta say I am disappointed with our 2 target cleave specifically, although other specs are complaining about this scenario as well. We are ok single target and we are fine 4+ targets that don't insta-die. Just wish our cleave was a little more fleshed out than it is now.
    Yeah I really don't see why they don't just give us a "Beacon of Vengeance" that does a % of our damage on the enemy onto whom we place the beacon. Pures and hybrids are supposed to be equal now, but the dpsers who can't do traditional healing still blatantly have a more diverse toolkit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doodledoo View Post
    Got any numbers or logs? Cuz from the people who play ret and actually have numbers to show, ret is a top 5 spec right now on every fight. Granted thats with 4pc...
    that's intereresting because I've gotten a lot of top 10 ret parses while being around ~10th in the raid on the DPS.

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    Tested Normal Mode Highmaul last night, and ret is looking pretty strong. Definitely in the top 5 if played correctly. Good Single target, good aoe, good cleave. Had a hard time figuring out a glaring weakness with the addition of 2/4s. Don't have any logs, but here are some vods.

    http://www.twitch.tv/realsmooth3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    that's intereresting because I've gotten a lot of top 10 ret parses while being around ~10th in the raid on the DPS.
    We arent talking about current content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thete View Post
    It doesn't make much material difference. It doesn't matter what damage our class/spec is capable of; what matters is how much damage we do as players compared to the other players in our respective raid teams.
    He generalized from his raid DPS numbers that the retribution paladin is "in a pretty good spot".. Statistics don't work that way, I'm afraid.

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    Nothing new here? Did the discussion move to another thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lychnuchus View Post
    Nothing new here? Did the discussion move to another thread?
    Well, although the game appears to be a beta game, it is in fact a live launch and so this thread doesn't really server any purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thete View Post
    Well, although the game appears to be a beta game, it is in fact a live launch and so this thread doesn't really server any purpose.
    This is precise!

    Sorry for being so slow on closing this.

    The new thread for discussion is here!
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