Help with First build please.

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Hey all, first time building a custom PC. Below is a list of items I've put together off of UMART. The total build cost will be just over $1200, plus the cost of windows 7, unless you can suggest a better OS. What I'm curious about is, are all the parts going to work well with each other. I'm mainly going to be playing WoW with the system, no video editing or anything like that. I might at a later date get Skyrim, or a couple FPS, but nothing overly serious. I want to be able to run wow on max graphics, everywhere, with very very little lag. I live in Australia, I have a total budget of around $1500, but since I already have monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers and headphones, I only need a new tower. Thanks in advance and if I've left anything out, please don't hang me, I'm new to this.

CPU

RAM

Mobo

HDD

SSD

Graphics Card

PSU

Case

DVD-RW


EDIT: Or would I be better off just getting something like this This

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($157.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($102.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($369.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($83.12 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1453.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

If you want to lower the budget some a XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation would bring the total to $1,283 and is still quite good for WoW, the 280X will let you push things further, especially in other titles.

The build includes Windows (8.1). There is really no reason not to go with 8.1, if you're uncertain of the UI you can easily change it yourself or use free Classic Shell and it'll look pretty much like Windows 7. Future support is better, better memory management, better SSD support etc.

You can get a Win8.1 64bit key for $24 here.
You can verify that key with Microsoft tool
Downloaded the image and mount it with their USB tool

You don't need a DVD drive.

(I need to mention it because someone else probably will, it's likely an MSDN key and could in theory be deactivated. i've bought from them myself with no issues)

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Thanks for that =D. The only issue here is that I don't have anyone to build it for me and I'm not confident enough to do it myself. With places like umart they will assemble and ship with warranty on the build. I was also considering just buying a pre built computer through someone like pccase gear. They seem to be priced fairly well, I put one of their computers components on newegg, and even being in Australia, they were only about $50 higher for the total cost, which is pretty good I think. I don't know, I have like a month before I'm going to be buying the system. Thanks again for taking the time to go through all that =D. Also I did not know that about windows 8.1, Ive always been told that it blows and isn't good for gaming.

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Thanks for that =D. The only issue here is that I don't have anyone to build it for me and I'm not confident enough to do it myself. With places like umart they will assemble and ship with warranty on the build. I was also considering just buying a pre built computer through someone like pccase gear. They seem to be priced fairly well, I put one of their computers components on newegg, and even being in Australia, they were only about $50 higher for the total cost, which is pretty good I think. I don't know, I have like a month before I'm going to be buying the system. Thanks again for taking the time to go through all that =D. Also I did not know that about windows 8.1, Ive always been told that it blows and isn't good for gaming.

That's people letting their biases overrule the actual quality of the OS. It feels quicker than Win7 on my current rig, and most people hate the tiles of the Metro UI, which is almost optional now.

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Building it yourself is not hard at all, it's like lego for adults. Just take your time and use the motherboard manual to see where various cables go.

Windows 8.1 is fine, people saying it's not good for gaming have no idea what they're talking about.

Even if you decide for uMart perhaps you can find similar components? Or perhaps you have a friend that can assist you for the building process.

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Okay, so I've been slack, but my wife is really hounding me to build my pc since it's a gift. So I pulled my finger out and have come up with this.

Mwave.com.au Custom Build PC
Case: 1 x $124.9900 [NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower Case Black](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AA12525
CPU: 1 x $284.0000 [Intel Core i5 4690K Quad Core LGA 1150 3.5GHz Unlocked CPU Processor](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB55540
CPU Cooling: 1 x $49.9500 [Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer Liquid CPU Cooler](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB52685
Motherboards: 1 x $139.0000 [ASRock Z97 Pro4 Intel LGA 1150 ATX Motherboard](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB54945
Memory: 1 x $99.0000 [G.SKILL RipjawsX 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop Memory F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL ](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AA65708
Video Card: 1 x $175.0000 [Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB53972
Power Supply: 1 x $95.0000 [Thermaltake SMART 650W 80Plus Bronze Power Supply ](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB48359
Storage (SSD & HDD): 1 x $69.9900 [Western Digital WD10EZEX WD 1TB Blue 3.5” 7200RPM SATA3 Hard Drive](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AA19761
Storage (SSD & HDD): 1 x $139.0000 [Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SATA III SSD CT240M500SSD1](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB49384
Optical Drive: 1 x $22.0000 [LG 24x Internal SATA OEM DVD Burner Drive GH24NSB0 ](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB51100
Software: Operating System: 1 x $115.0000 [Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit - DVD OEM](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB52155
Advanced Build Options: 1 x $19.0000 [Upgraded CPU Cooler Installation *For Systems Builds Only!*](http://www.mwave.com.au/product/AB52372
Assembling Fee: $99.99
Total: $1,431.92
Generated by Mwave.com.au 18/10/2014 07:27:57 AM

Thoughts, ideas, suggestions on alternative parts available from mwave. I priced similar builds at other sites and these guys come out cheaper. Yes I could buy all the bits myself and assemble it, but I'm not overly confident and I don't want any issues.

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All that budget and you get that gpu? 650W psu with a gtx 750ti? i mean that system wont even need 300watts.

You don't wanna build it yourself, fine, get the following that is alot better than the build above and spend the rest 100-120 to have a shop build it for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($172.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($135.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($249.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1326.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-18 08:49 EST+1100

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btw just in case you are wondering. I wouldn't even consider a gtx 750 ti much of a gaming gpu, its on the low end. Compared to a R9 280 is night and day.

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You can, if you go a little over, fit in a GTX970 in the budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($469.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1511.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-18 08:54 EST+1100

You sacrifice some performance elsewhere in order to fit in what is an amazing GPU. For an extra ~AU$30, you can get something like the MSI TFV 970.

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Thanks Kos.

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On a side note, I cant remember where. I read that the 750I 2G gpu's were good for games, especially if all you are doing is mainly wow.

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Yes its good for questing , but when you enter a busy city or go raid then things change dramatically. Also depends what you mean good. 60fps at medium-low settings? We are talking ultra here.

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Yeah I do want to run on ultra all the time, aside from maybe slightly adjusting stuff when in 25mans or in av or something when there's around 40 people in a small area. I dont mind if fps drops to around 30-40 under load, but right now it drops to around 2fps (on low low low settings) and sometimes just crashes the game all together, so in all reality ANYTHING at this stage will be better haha. In saying that, Ive done a bit more reading and I think I am confident enough to try building my own system, so I came up with this..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($102.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($469.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: NZXT H230 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1578.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 08:43 EST+1100

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Build seems mostly ok-ish, some notes:

- The gpu, i wouldn't reckon it cause of heatpipe misallignment not matter what evga says. You wanna look at the ACX2.0 version, or another brand (which means more money unfortunately). You can max graphis with R9 280 / gtx 760 in wow, but for more gpu intensive games the 970 rocks in performance and price/perf ratio.

- Power supply, just change it, get the one i linked, its better and cheaper although non fully/semi modular. There is a version of it modular tho, Antec HCG-620M

- Case aesthetics are subjective, just look if it has dust filters, or add your own.