Doing IoT and Venture Bay dailies, with the +15% guild banner and lvl 25 guild, gives nearly 900 honor/day. Toss in weekly Wintergrasp, Tol Barad weekly, JP=>honor conversion, and the occasional BG and you can deck yourself in honor gear fairly quickly.
What's frustrating in MoP is there are so many people who give the false impression that you just go to the Timeless Isle, shit rains from the sky and boom you're in SoO.
Intelligent people know better. Timeless Isle is crap because when you're done dying there and collected everything you can, you have the item level for Throne of Thunder. People with reading comprehension issues and exaggerators aren't comprehending that people aren't asking for a quick way to gear up for ToT. Like you, they're asking to get into SoO.
Simple answer is, it's not easy gearing up for SoO. It's grindy. It's not as easy as previous expansions where running 5 mans for valor and previous tier loot got you geared with relative ease.
Thats true, but they dont have the same kind of haste/hit/exp/etc right? So they are sub optimal in that sense, not when it comes to main stat/stam.
@ablib, I find that going to timeless obviously helps, but it doesnt help as much as people say. I feel like I would have to spend a dozen or so hours there to get a full i496 set minus weps. Im already at i....i475 or 79 I think? :/
I remember geraing up in WotLK was easy at 30% buff, because valor points iirc were easier to get, but I could be remembering wrong which is highly possible.
If you have some alts you can feed yourself crafted items and other stuff to shorten it down even further.
I bought one of my alts to 90 and had her in Soo LFR the same day by being smart about it and sending her a couple of crafted 553 pieces.
And really, the advice is that not far off. Timeless Isle is a great place to start when you're in quest greens/blues.
Yes, you will absolutely need some supplemental pieces to get the ilvl for Siege LFR if you don't want to stop in ToT LFR first. You can get those supplemental pieces through Burdens of Eternity on the Timeless Isle itself if you're lucky enough to get more than the one from the chest, but more efficiently you can use crafted pieces, PvP gear, and world boss loot.
I didn't find it to be that grindy. I think my /played between 90 and Siege LFR on my last guy (only one I've done post-TI) was only a few hours. I did full TI 496s with one burden, a heroic scenario 515, and then I got lucky and got tier pants off a celestial and that was enough. I might have had a cheap 522 crafted. Even if I hadn't gotten lucky with the pants, I could have used 553 crafted instead.
You need 496 for SoO LFR. I had that on the first day at 90...how is that grindy?
Rivelle, how did you have it the first day? I raided MoV and ToES, and am about to finish HoF, as well as spending some time on the island....yet still i496. I even have a burden item, I believe....or at the least, Im saving it for a ring or w/e people say to do.
I mean, Im 496 besides...
i476 neck, i450 hands, i476 ring, i442 ring, i437 green trink, i450 weap
From my understanding I can replace everything besides the wep and the trinket, as I already have the trinket from TI.
I dont know the best thing to do. Rep grind, over frogs?
You can queue as soon as your overall ilevel is 496. If you have even a couple of higher ilevel pieces (from burden, valor upgrades, pvp gear, celestials drops) to balance out your lower ones, you can easily reach that.
but you can earn more than that based off a formula that includes how long the season has been going on? (Sorry that is for Conquest Points and not Honor Points).
Also note that this does not include the possible pieces you can get from the Celestials.
Math for Honor Points
2250 - Head/Chest/Legs
1750 - Shoulder/Waist/Feet/Hands/Trinket (x2)
1250 - Necklace/Wrist/Rings (x2)/Cloak
2h - 3500
1h SP - 2250
1h other - 1750
OH - 1250
(2250 * 3) + (1750 * 6) + (1250 * 5) = 23,500 HP for Armor + either 3500 (For 2H or 1H+OH), 4000 (For 1H SP + OH), or 4500 (For 2x 1H)
Last edited by Alroxas; 2014-07-07 at 09:17 PM. Reason: The Maths!
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