Malaysian Airlines flight carrying 295 people has been shot down in Ukraine

[Crispin]

I often use the Anonymous CIA source when arguing with my mother in law, it works everytime.

[Kellhound]

Ok, lets look at this logically. The aircraft wreckage shows signs of a LARGE blast-frag warhead, not the tiny warhead found on the AA-8 that Su-25s can carry. The aircraft crashed rapidly, more evidence of a large warhead from a radar guided missile. If it was an airborne radar guided missile, Russian ELINT systems should have picked it up.

As it stands, SAM is the most likely suspect.