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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    You decide to stay, because you already swore yourself to the alliance/horde, respectively. It's just Aysa and Ji leaving.

    Alliance: this was all Garrosh's fault, and we've dealt with him
    Horde: This was all Garrosh's fault, and we've dealt with him

    Though it would be nice to at least allow us to return to the Wandering Isle.
    Let's not forget that only AYSA said she wanted to leave, and that she said that in a fit of emotion after seeing Ji being near-beaten to death. There's no guarantee that they're ACTUALLY leaving.
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    If a building's about to collapse, you can debate whether it's better to demolish it or repair it, and you can make political-agenda arguments either way. Disputing gravity itself to claim it won't fall down is not a political position, it's just ignorance.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by bionics View Post
    An article from AiPT today raises a good question: What is going to happen/should happen with the remaining Pandaren?

    In SoO, Aysa saves Ji and they vow to try to return to the Wandering Isle. But what happens with the rest of the Pandaren still in the Horde/Alliance? What is their motivation to stay, and why do Varian/Vol'jin keep them in their ranks? They have no need for any Pandaria advantages anymore as both are turning their attentions to Draenor.
    What **SHOULD ** happen?

    The Houjin leave the Horde en masse, leaving behind only a few of its members who have made especially strong ties with elements of the Horde. The Pandaren Empire realises that it cannot stand alone in this strange and dangerous world

    Both join the Alliance. It'd be something that shows that there consequences to the decisions made by the factions. It creates a situation whereby the Pandaren story can continue to evolve. It does so without creating any gameplay issues.

    What will happen? The Pandaren get forgotten about about.

    EJL
    Last edited by Talen; 2014-07-24 at 09:02 PM.

  3. #43
    It'd be cool if, even though after getting nearly beaten to death, Ji still sees a place in the horde for him and the Hoijin, now Vol'jin is warchief, pissing Aysa off in the process and declaring them ' a lost cause' sparking a slight hatred for each other *shrug*

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Talen View Post
    The Pandaren Empire realises that it cannot stand alone in this strange and dangerous world
    One tiny problem here. There's no "Pandaren Empire." The Shado-Pan are as close as you can get to a centralized government for them but they're more of a very, very large militia holding land but never expanding it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakaji View Post
    It'd be cool if, even though after getting nearly beaten to death, Ji still sees a place in the horde for him and the Hoijin, now Vol'jin is warchief, pissing Aysa off in the process and declaring them ' a lost cause' sparking a slight hatred for each other *shrug*
    Not terribly likely as Aysa's people don't see Ji's people as enemies. The entire point of splitting them between the factions was to teach the world there isn't always a "kill or die" model.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Talen View Post
    What **SHOULD ** happen?

    The Houjin leave the Horde en masse, leaving behind only a few of its members who have made especially strong ties with elements of the Horde. The Pandaren Empire realises that it cannot stand alone in this strange and dangerous world

    Both join the Alliance. It'd be something that shows that there consequences to the decisions made by the factions. It creates a situation whereby the Pandaren story can continue to evolve. It does so without creating any gameplay issues.

    What will happen? The Pandaren get forgotten about about.

    EJL
    That would make sense storywise and ostensibly speaking (with a few exceptions of course), the Pandaren do seem more the type to side with the Alliance overall. Who would that open up in terms of joining up with the Horde, however?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by bionics View Post
    An article from AiPT today raises a good question: What is going to happen/should happen with the remaining Pandaren?

    In SoO, Aysa saves Ji and they vow to try to return to the Wandering Isle. But what happens with the rest of the Pandaren still in the Horde/Alliance? What is their motivation to stay, and why do Varian/Vol'jin keep them in their ranks? They have no need for any Pandaria advantages anymore as both are turning their attentions to Draenor.
    ...because the Pandaren bring fighting styles to the A/H that the other races do not.

    The fact of the matter is, neither side would get rid of allies just because they aren't as useful as they once were. Otherwise the Alliance and Horde would only consist of Humans and Orcs.

    The only ACTUAL pressing question? Who will the new Alliance/Horde Pandaren leaders be? Blizzard said back in the 5.4 PTR that Aysa and Ji will remain them in-game, because they don't see it worth the time to change them, but lore wise, who will take over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionics View Post
    That would make sense storywise and ostensibly speaking (with a few exceptions of course), the Pandaren do seem more the type to side with the Alliance overall. Who would that open up in terms of joining up with the Horde, however?
    Noone.

    The very idea of lore balance is a terrible one, and one that makes for lousy stories. The Horde will have their pandaren players from the Wandering Isle and this story would see them them lose the Houjin after the SoO. Or rather Ji and his followers.

    If you did want to give the Horde some sort of balance in this - then storyline seeing them ally with the Mogu or Tol'vir might be suitable - the Horde would get some land, but neither is suitable for a player race as is.

    EJL

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