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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazor View Post
    The solution to the silly new Lock'n'load is to simply change Explosive Shot to be on a charge system by itself, and let Lock'n'load regain Explosive Shot regain charges.

    The difference between what beta currently has and this idea is quite simple - In the current beta iteration, whenever you have LnL procced and are sitting on it you are wasting Explosive Shot's "natural" cooldowns (those you gain every 6 seconds) because it will never go on CD if you have a charge, and so it's a DPS lose for the most part to sit on it, and it just makes your rotation a bit more twitchy, where you have to spam Explosive Shots whenever they are available pretty much regardless of the situation (sitting on it just prior to an ICD trinket proc might be a gain, it'll depend on a per case basis. It'll still feel bad losing the "natural" charges though).

    The change I mentioned will make Explosive Shot and LnL more similar to Destruction's Chaos Bolt, or Conflagrate. You can always sit on charges, as long as you are not on the max or 1 below the max, and then spam them when you please.

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    Exactly my thought. Balance Druids and Starsurge atm work exactly like this on beta with Shooting Stars procs. Their Starsurge has a 30 second CD with 3 charges. When Shooting Stars procs it instantly gives them an extra charge of Starsurge. If they implemented this exact method of use with ES and LnL (except extending to 5 charges of course), it would be perfect.

  2. #42
    quick question coming from a non-beta participant: is BA still decursable? because that would render SV a dead spec in pvp, considering a 30s CD with only 18 secs duration and that is the only way of generating LnL-procs which is the only way to burst as SV (omg, so many 'onlys' .... ).

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    You will never get 5 stacks of LnL procs before ES is off Cd again so I don't see the problem, i think you get 1 stack per proc, and it ticks once per 3 sec (affected by haste?) and the proc lasts 30 sec.
    I think it has some potential to where in many cases you'd want to hold of using lnl stacks (unless you got 5 obviously) then wait for trinket procs or second pot etc for a potential dps gain. Or you could save like 4lnl procs for a situation where you need some burst dmg (like engineers on garrosh 25hc). just spitting out untested theories here ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedlance View Post
    You will never get 5 stacks of LnL procs before ES is off Cd again so I don't see the problem, i think you get 1 stack per proc, and it ticks once per 3 sec (affected by haste?) and the proc lasts 30 sec.
    We aren't talking about the now. We're talking about later on, when 50%+ MS is a thing and every tick will almost always give 2stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxman View Post
    I think I want Survival from Live. Bake the 4pc into LnL naturally and let me play this forever. I love SV on live, it doesn't need changes. It actually fits better in WoD because it's very simplistic and barebones.
    This is what I'd prefer. It feels completely fine atm on live and is the one spec I wouldn't have expected them to change. Feels so clunky and stupid on beta atm I don't see myself raiding with it during WoD.

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    As of now, if they just made LnL half the cost it would be ok but when gear levels do get to the point where every other tick gives stacks the cost will have to be 0.

    To be honest, blizz kind of painted themselves in a corner with this method of LnL proc design.

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    Main thing that needs to happen is Viper Venom coming back with no target cap, and DoT haste scaling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finbezwaz View Post
    As of now, if they just made LnL half the cost it would be ok but when gear levels do get to the point where every other tick gives stacks the cost will have to be 0.

    To be honest, blizz kind of painted themselves in a corner with this method of LnL proc design.
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    What did I do? ;_;

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