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  1. #401
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    Playing on alts and working on Seeker of Knowledge title. May jump back into pet battles. Haven't done them in forever.

    Lots to do in WoW. And the only other game I'm playing is Hearthstone so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    It blows my mind. $180 or more bucks they will have paid out before WoD gets here and wont have gotten a single piece of new content to live.
    Hell, even if you come back to WOW at a later date, stop paying blizzard for them doing nothing but keeping the bare minimum.
    I am constantly subbed with 2-3 accounts and won't cancel any of them until WoD. Why would I? New content or not, I am still having fun - and that is all that matters.

  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by Anon56 View Post
    Can you link your armory with SoO HM achievement please ?
    I guess those 800k people all had SOO HM right?
    That content is so engaging, that people are willing to stay for months and do it.
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  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by ministabber View Post
    Only 800k honestly ? what the hell are you playing!
    Why do you care if others are still actively playing? Not everyone raids. Not everyone race to consume the content as quickly as possible. Some are still progressing in SoO.

  5. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    Sorry but I had to laugh about your post. Seriously, do you know another MMO with a seperate e-sports competition ? Nope. You DO know esports with equal gear is supported in WoW ?

    Do you know another MMO with around 70 seperate BG's spread over 5 levels up until the end game... Number of Arena plays ?

    And that's just PvP.

    Anyone care to to look into the 120+ dungeons, the HUGE amount of continents, high quality Raids, Pet Battles, Pet collections, FLYING mounts.

    Seriously NONE of these MMO's have seamless phasing that allows such simple things as farms and garrisons, NONE have seamless and real time cross server open world play.

    NONE have multi millions of subscribers either.

    Most of these crappy copycats that launched over the years have terrible GCD mechanics.

    So please stop this already.

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    The others have ZERO official subscribers after 1-2 years, because they offer LESS in overall polish, quality and quantity.

    In fact most of these duds have only a FRACTION of players while being offered for FREE.

    Now seriously: think about this: other FREE "MMO's" (sic) have far LESS players than WoW has active subscribers ...

    How much more fail do you want ?

    It is quite simple really. Subpar quality never made it into the subscription field, that's why the rest turned free faster than you can pronounce the word subscription.
    Glad to make someone smile in such a bleak world. E-spots competition doesn't mean squat, especially since the game wasn't made for it and it isn't balanced properly. And I'm to understand that it wasn't executed well. But I could be wrong. As for the number of BGs - so? PvP isn't the major focus of the game nor is it everybody's cup of tea. And it's not a boasting point if you have that many and can't keep them balanced.

    The dungeons are amazing. At least they were until they stopped caring, roughly around the time Mists dropped. They didn't put any time or energy into updating the dungeons as they should have (every other expansion, IMO) so the result is the dungeons feeling stale and people rushing through and not letting newer players take the time to experience things properly and/or learn. As for the amount of continents, uh, again, WoW's had a few years to have that much stuff. Wildstar, which was just released, has a huge and expensive world to explore. Rift does also. And Rift's collection/artifact system is far superior than anything collection related WoW's come up with.

    Numbers aren't everything. If you go by numbers, 50 Shades of Grey is one of the best series of all time. If you go by numbers, Rihanna is a better artist than Cher, Prince, Aerosmith, and Guns N'Roses. If you go by numbers, Frozen is better than Pirates of the Carribbean. Do you see how that logic is faulty? Just because something is popular, doesn't mean it is superior.

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    Check your numbers. None of other MMOs currently on the market have "zero official subscribers" or else they wouldn't be on the market. LoTR, Rift, Wildstar, etc. are still thriving. They may not have millions, but they have devs who care about their players enough to actually speak TO their players and not down to them. They are way more polished IE graphics of 2014 quality and not 2003 quality. I could go on.

    You need to check your sources before throwing out dribble like that.

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Spastic_Dreamer View Post
    Glad to make someone smile in such a bleak world. E-spots competition doesn't mean squat, especially since the game wasn't made for it and it isn't balanced properly. And I'm to understand that it wasn't executed well. But I could be wrong. As for the number of BGs - so? PvP isn't the major focus of the game nor is it everybody's cup of tea. And it's not a boasting point if you have that many and can't keep them balanced.

    The dungeons are amazing. At least they were until they stopped caring, roughly around the time Mists dropped. They didn't put any time or energy into updating the dungeons as they should have (every other expansion, IMO) so the result is the dungeons feeling stale and people rushing through and not letting newer players take the time to experience things properly and/or learn. As for the amount of continents, uh, again, WoW's had a few years to have that much stuff. Wildstar, which was just released, has a huge and expensive world to explore. Rift does also. And Rift's collection/artifact system is far superior than anything collection related WoW's come up with.

    Numbers aren't everything. If you go by numbers, 50 Shades of Grey is one of the best series of all time. If you go by numbers, Rihanna is a better artist than Cher, Prince, Aerosmith, and Guns N'Roses. If you go by numbers, Frozen is better than Pirates of the Carribbean. Do you see how that logic is faulty? Just because something is popular, doesn't mean it is superior.

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    Check your numbers. None of other MMOs currently on the market have "zero official subscribers" or else they wouldn't be on the market. LoTR, Rift, Wildstar, etc. are still thriving. They may not have millions, but they have devs who care about their players enough to actually speak TO their players and not down to them. They are way more polished IE graphics of 2014 quality and not 2003 quality. I could go on.

    You need to check your sources before throwing out dribble like that.
    "PvP means squat" ... Sure I must have been playing squat then along with millions of others during all these years

    Sorry but LOTRO, RIFT and around 2 billion others have ZERO official subscribers. They are integrated into their number of free to play mechanics, camouflaging things all over the place.

    The fact of the matter is that these sub based launched things transformed to free to play without ANY official subscriptions at all. Sure you can take some premium options, but these things are quite hidden for the public to be known under an avalanche of FREE TO PLAY mechanics.

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    They are free to play things, just like Farmville 2 or Hearthstone. But they LACK any decent multi million players like these 2 examples and they come FAR behind in active player numbers WHILE being FREE...

    Go figure how much they stink.

    The avatar movement in LOTRO always was a laugh and always will be. Rift was a bleak mini copycat of WoW the day it launched with appaling game play and an incredible absent Lore.

    Rift had 99 full servers at launch as a subscription based game, now as FREE to play it crumbled to ... 15 half filled servers world wide in less than 2.5 years.

    -----> Comparing free to play with official only subscription based games is like talking BS all over the place btw.
    Last edited by BenBos; 2014-08-07 at 12:30 PM.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    Sorry but I had to laugh about your post. Seriously, do you know another MMO with a seperate e-sports competition ? Nope. You DO know esports with equal gear is supported in WoW ?

    Do you know another MMO with around 70 seperate BG's spread over 5 levels up until the end game... Number of Arena plays ?

    And that's just PvP.

    Anyone care to to look into the 120+ dungeons, the HUGE amount of continents, high quality Raids, Pet Battles, Pet collections, FLYING mounts.

    Seriously NONE of these MMO's have seamless phasing that allows such simple things as farms and garrisons, NONE have seamless and real time cross server open world play.

    NONE have multi millions of subscribers either.

    Most of these crappy copycats that launched over the years have terrible GCD mechanics.

    So please stop this already.

    -----

    The others have ZERO official subscribers after 1-2 years, because they offer LESS in overall polish, quality and quantity.

    In fact most of these duds have only a FRACTION of players while being offered for FREE.

    -----> Now seriously: think about this: other FREE "MMO's" (sic) have far LESS players than WoW has active subscribers ...

    How much more fail do you want ? For God's sake Diablo3 has no subscription and it sold ... 20 MILLION copies in 2 years already... Now THAT is an example of how FREE MMO's would need in numbers ... IF they were anything even comparable to WoW...

    But they fail, in copies, in numbers, in having zero active subscriptions after X months launch.

    It is quite simple really. Subpar quality never made it into the subscription field, that's why the rest turned free faster than you can pronounce the word subscription.

    And nope, how much you would want to twist things: going free does NOT magically turns games into better experiences at all.
    There is no esports scene in wow anymore. The devs screwed up balancing PVP so badly, that wow was dropped from every single gaming event besides blizzcon.
    And no, you cannot count level 20 and level 30 AB as 2 separate BGs.

    This is even more stupid than your normal drabble.
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  8. #408
    I accidentally let my 6 month sub tick over, so yeah...

  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by cityguy193 View Post
    There is no esports scene in wow anymore. The devs screwed up balancing PVP so badly, that wow was dropped from every single gaming event besides blizzcon.
    And no, you cannot count level 20 and level 30 AB as 2 separate BGs.

    This is even more stupid than your normal drabble.
    Another dude declaring what he thinks as universal law... Of course the BG's in WoW are seperated into 5 lvl sections.

    As such, a far better solution than raise some gear" between a lvl 20 and a lvl 60..."

    I might say again that numbers speak for themselves IF FREE to play MMO's have far less players than WoW subscribers.

    You have to be a complete idiot if you want to talk player numbers in FREE to play games and compare them with ... WoW only subscribers.

    As stated: Diablo3 has only a box price and it sold 20 MILLION already. These figures are nowhere to be found in the WoW competitors.

    That's a sign of how much worse these copycats really are.

    We knew it back then in 2008 and we know it now. The difference is called quality.

    Simple.

    We play quality. You may go down town with the free stuff.
    Last edited by BenBos; 2014-08-07 at 12:46 PM.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Spastic_Dreamer View Post
    They are way more polished IE graphics of 2014 quality and not 2003 quality. I could go on.
    Better graphics <> better immersion.

    So far only GW2 matches WoW for immersion - the others in your list, nope nope and nope.

  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Better graphics <> better immersion.

    So far only GW2 matches WoW for immersion - the others in your list, nope nope and nope.
    While GW2 has sooooo many BASIC immersive things lacking compared to WoW, it is not even possible to cite them in 10 pages.

    Like crossing seamlessly zones in an open world play and not even having a basic form of human/animal transportation.

    I mean, every time you face a loading screen to go visit something as trivial as a city gate.... your immersion goes right through the window.

    And I thought Invisible walls everywhere were left behind in the 90's. 2D forests were brilliant in Tabula Rasa ... too.

    Someone should mention to GW2 developpers the fact that the human kind has had animal transportation and mounts for 10.000 years already. That is "content" far more than putting a question mark on a hastely created dude in a corner of a closed zone.

    To have some EXTRA stuff is nice, to scrap everything is being cheap.
    Last edited by BenBos; 2014-08-07 at 01:11 PM.

  12. #412
    Raiding H-SoO, doing pet battles, and doing flex/normal raiding on alts. Plenty to do.

  13. #413
    Only 800k what?

    I have read this thread and I still got no clue what OP is talking about.

  14. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by ministabber View Post
    Only 800k honestly ? what the hell are you playing!

    Is there some secret part of the game I don't know about ?
    Are players just letting subs roll over till WOD ?

    I'd really like to know why your still playing, or more important what your playing?
    I am trying to get the remaining rare mounts that I don't yet have, mostly from raids. Same for pets, but I am only missing a couple (apart from the store / TCG ones). I also have a couple achievements which I am trying for, but all of them are super-boring, like the 5000 wins in PVP pet battles, or, gasp, Going to Need a Bigger Bag, so... I am also leveling two last alts, to have one of each class, running exclusively off rested experience, because leveling is also very boring.

    It's bad. There's very little to do and what there is, isn't really interesting. It's like an unpleasant job. I am continuing it solely on hopes that WoD will make whatever little progress I am making now in rare mounts, etc, worthwhile. There's a serious risk it won't.

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    I'm one of those 800k.
    But I'm not playing because I don't have much free time. If I had, I would still be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ministabber View Post
    Only 800k honestly ? what the hell are you playing!
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  17. #417
    Playing arena with my 1000000 alts ofc. and making gold for WoD there is a lot of stuff to do really... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfaced View Post
    Only 800k what?

    I have read this thread and I still got no clue what OP is talking about.
    you seem to have missed post 353...but then again lots see what they want to see

    Seems lots jumped into defence mode, but there was never no attack!
    This may for the first time since the fourth week in vanilla, I stopped my two active accounts! to put it quite simply....I ran out of steam, the fire went out.
    I do not ridicule any one for playing any game they enjoy!
    Was I shocked that wow only lost 800k ? yes I was, but my main question was and still is valid.

    What keeps your fires burning.

    Thank you to those who posted honest......GOOD LUCK WITH THE DROPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    It's still a hell of a lot of players for a game that is 10 years old and has had 14 months of no new content.
    Patch 5.4.0 released on September 10, 2013
    It's not even full 11 months since it was released. And it usually takes at least 2-3 months to consume all content. So you should be looking at 9 months of no new content at the very best.
    I really hate when people start putting in random numbers.
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  20. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by ministabber View Post
    I do not ridicule any one for playing any game they enjoy!
    Yes, you very much obviously do. That is very clearly the sole intent of this entire thread. You don't ask someone "What the hell" they're doing without implying you already disagree with their decisions.

    Don't try to backpedal on being another "cancelled my sub" elitist. You put it out there, gut up and stick with it.

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