[7.3] Azortharion's Hunter Guides

[Effinhunter]

is there a sim somewhere showing dps of Normal/Heroic/Mythic teir?

This one is a bit tricky because the dps differences you'll see are really showing the item level differences of not only the tier itself but of the gear that usually would accompany your tier pieces.

For a piece by piece comparison, you might try the per slot breakdowns on EJ:

Helm: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...1#entry2278369
Shoulders: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...1#entry2278372
Chest: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...0#entry2278365
Gloves: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...1#entry2278368
Legs: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...1#entry2278370

It can be a bit much to absorb, but this can help you figure out if it is worth, for instance, trying to roll a coin for a heroic over normal or HWF over a regular heroic.

As for general statements about the gaps between N->H and H->M, I've noticed that the leaps are often 1-2k dps for each direct upgrade for these item levels. Again, you can take a look at the above lists for closer approximations. Some tier upgrade pieces are worth more than others, depending on the gear you have (i.e., if you are lower on crit, a crit-heavy piece like the tier legs can be a huge upgrade).

If you want to see the kind of dps increases you are likely going to see by going from a Heroic raider to a Mythic raider, you can see this kind of comparison on the main EJ aggregated guide here (http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...nter-guide-62/) in the Heroic vs Mythic gear breakdowns. However, I haven't really done a Normal breakdown, partly because the existence of crafted and BoEs (which can reach upwards of 731 ilvl) obtainable through crafting and AH make the "Normal" profile really sketchy to nail down an example set. The truth is a "normal" raider who only does normals can be well over 700 ilvl without even setting foot in heroic HFC raids (especially if you factor in raiding the old Mythic BRFs to gain filler gear, which is doable now without even really having a full Mythic raid after nerfs, having a few heroic-geared HFC friends and whatnot).

[xiic]

Have any of you guys used the class trinket on Mythic Xhul? Seems like it might be viable.

[deatzh]

In Azortharions guide (trinket section), only 4 the 4 trinkets from HFC are mentioned.

But giving that Beating Hearth of the Mountain lines up perfectly with Rapid Fire, and that Rapid Fire is almost always stacked with the Lengendary Ring, isn't this trinket a lot better than what it looks like on paper, perhaps even better than the HFC trinkets ?

Have any of you guys used the class trinket on Mythic Xhul? Seems like it might be viable.

No because its an incredibly selfish decision you would be making for progression and who gives a fuck about farm.

[Azortharion]

Have any of you guys used the class trinket on Mythic Xhul? Seems like it might be viable.

In our strat, we are deliberately stacking on the boss for mages to Evanesce chains. Idk what strat you're using that lets you be at 35yds all fight.

[iseemara]

In our strat, we are deliberately stacking on the boss for mages to Evanesce chains. Idk what strat you're using that lets you be at 35yds all fight.

In our strat, we have basically everyone stacked in melee but myself, whose job it is to bait void touch. With that being said, I can imagine that it'd be sub-optimal for progression, but potentially viable for farm.

[Deleted]

Talking about Xhul'orac, what are your thoughts on going BM on progression? since we are 4 hunters and 3 are mostly guaranteed a spot, one of us could be full time on boss. Also the BM hunter could be the one baiting the voids, but staying on boss, letting the mm hunters DPS them without loosing any ST uptime. Also, woudl the last 20% be better as BM? granting you enter it with 5 FF stacks and a BW ready, as we did in maidens.

[Deleted]

Have any of you guys used the class trinket on Mythic Xhul? Seems like it might be viable.

highly doubt it'd be viable for progress. Being 40 yards from all the targets majority of the fight? don't think see that working out very well.

[Azortharion]

In our strat, we have basically everyone stacked in melee but myself, whose job it is to bait void touch. With that being said, I can imagine that it'd be sub-optimal for progression, but potentially viable for farm.

If everyone else stacks in melee, then you'll have to put yourself at over 35 yards from all healers for this trinket to be the best. That doesn't sound viable, progression or farm.

[xiic]

We don't have three mages so I have to stand out to bait black holes and feign the empowered chains.

[Avikur]

Just out of interest how much difference does the MM 4 set bonus make to DPS? I realise it is probably hard to answer as it would depend on the gear you replace with the set pieces but I just wondered what people had noticed their DPS go up by?

[Azortharion]

~15%

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[Noocta]

The beastmaster trinket comparison link is dead in the google doc.

[Azortharion]

The Beast Mastery guide is dead altogether, it even says this on the frontpage where you access the different guides.

[Serion]

Does Mythic Humming Black iron trigger beat out any H HFA trinkets?

[Tekslol]

Does Mythic Humming Black iron trigger beat out any H HFA trinkets?

There is a trinket ranking in the guide.

[Deleted]

can someone please update the races since 6.2.2 is out, curious to see how close the undead race is , if its close then ill change.

[Azortharion]

Underway..

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It doesn't play with SimCraft the way I expect it to so ETA soontm

[Frankzor]

We don't have three mages so I have to stand out to bait black holes and feign the empowered chains.

Does FD work on emp chains, like mages invs do?

[trisight]

Is tidy plates broken since 6.2.2?

[eschatological]

Is tidy plates broken since 6.2.2?

It is. Blizzard added the ability to see absorbs on nameplates, so that functionality broke TidyPlates.

There's a temporary fix on the curseforge forums: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tid...ot-showing/#p7