1. #9041
    Quote Originally Posted by Azortharion View Post
    It does not take Pack Beasts.

    Blast Furnace applies.
    Thogar
    Darmac
    Maidens
    Flamebender
    Kromog
    Hans/Franz

    All bosses where you face multiple targets for a somewhat significant period, be it Pack Beasts, split phases, general AoR, multiple bosses present or wolf spawns.
    But SoD isnt better multi target. Are you trying to give advice for ranking, or progressing?

  2. #9042
    It quite evidently is, at least if you're trying to push recommendations to the wider playerbase instead of the sorta narrow suit that is high-end Mythic-geared players, although I doubt that there's a difference with the trinkets at that point.

    The ranking/progression argument is getting stale, there is easily enough multi-target even if you look at the fights from a pure progression perspective for SoD to pull ahead. Blast Furnace phase 2 is Multi-Shot cleave for its entirety save for Elementalist nukes, for one. Thogar has AoE regardless of whether you're trying to rank or progress, Darmac still has spears you can (with fight benefit to some degree as they need to die or you wipe even if they haven't impaled anyone) multi-dot or cleave on if the current mount is not particularly high-prio like Cruelfang.

    Maidens is multi-target at all times save for the boats where Survival will probably not be your best choice anyway, but whatever.

    Flamebender wolves are a deliberate priority target, you'll be Multi-Shotting here unless one ends up extraordinarily high over the others for some reason, Kromog Grasping Earths are similarly a priority target until you reach the point where people are actually dying too early, and rolling Multi-Shots in sections of the AoE to dot as much as possible is what makes SV super strong for this fight still.

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    Kromog hands were never a hard dps check..

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    Week 1 we were having trouble with 2 main boomkins and based on rankings etc I'd put them in the highly talented range. Ofc there's more gear resets and the iLvl buff since then, but enough people will definitely still have trouble meeting that and the Stone Pillar phase reliably every time.

    It is besides the point, though.

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    You guys are referring to sv with this sod vs hbt discussion right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    Kromog hands were never a hard dps check..
    It was a dps check in the sense that you had to have everybody out of hands and not be completely focus starved when Pillars started popping up afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    Kromog hands were never a hard dps check..
    We had our progress kill last reset and we had problems dps problems with hands.

  8. #9048
    Stamp + Lust + 40% Focus Fire + Bestial Wrath + pot = soooo much damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlaena View Post
    I see SoD being lower even on AoE, the agility difference is too much.
    it is kinda nuts a wf mythic scales of doom (691) has 302 agility compared to a normal mythic HBT (700) which has 444 agility.

  10. #9050
    I'm contemplating regemming and reenchanting my gear to Multi for BM/MM specs. For ST BM, Multi is right up there with Mastery, and so is Multi for BM and Crit. Lose a bit of BM AoE DPS for dual use gems and enchants?
    Quote Originally Posted by nnelson54 View Post
    More amusing than that is the fact that the entire basis behind Sinestra as a lore character is that she was the only dragon who was able to withstand the power of Deathwing's cock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissthebaby View Post
    it is kinda nuts a wf mythic scales of doom (691) has 302 agility compared to a normal mythic HBT (700) which has 444 agility.
    Or even a normal HBT at 670 which has 335 agility.

  12. #9052
    Hey !
    Here is our logs of Darmac : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...s=1694&wipes=1
    I made the error to play with blink strike instead of stampede but besides that what could I improve ? Should I focus only the main target ? or should I continue to switch to beast pack ? Is that fine for the others hunters to be SV if the end of the fight is the "hard" part ?
    There were a lot of try where a tank died (2 tanks, 4 heals), probably going to 5 heals (not sure) tonight.

  13. #9053
    Quote Originally Posted by Humiliate View Post
    Hey !
    Here is our logs of Darmac : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...s=1694&wipes=1
    I made the error to play with blink strike instead of stampede but besides that what could I improve ? Should I focus only the main target ? or should I continue to switch to beast pack ? Is that fine for the others hunters to be SV if the end of the fight is the "hard" part ?
    There were a lot of try where a tank died (2 tanks, 4 heals), probably going to 5 heals (not sure) tonight.
    4 heals? You my friend are very ambitions. Most first kills take 6 healers with them.
    Quote Originally Posted by nnelson54 View Post
    More amusing than that is the fact that the entire basis behind Sinestra as a lore character is that she was the only dragon who was able to withstand the power of Deathwing's cock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiz View Post
    It was a dps check in the sense that you had to have everybody out of hands and not be completely focus starved when Pillars started popping up afterwards.
    9/10 times Kromog will start to cast Stone Breath instead of Pillars after first Hands. Plenty of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    9/10 times Kromog will start to cast Stone Breath instead of Pillars after first Hands. Plenty of time.
    Still doesnt make the usefulness that SV has over MM and BM for hand damage, that you can spread it out over pretty much all the hands compared to BMs very high burst in a small area or MMs complete lack of useful AoE.

  16. #9056
    Quote Originally Posted by Kissthebaby View Post
    it is kinda nuts a wf mythic scales of doom (691) has 302 agility compared to a normal mythic HBT (700) which has 444 agility.
    Yep, I like socketed SoD more than WF, but I dont think either would make me drop my HBT in any scenario.

    That being said, i would recommend storing all four trinkets until we have access to next tiers table, as new synergies will likely emerge.

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