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    So did the ptr today as MM and SV, MM was scewed because he was in careful aim phase way longer than he shouldve been. Also that SS hit was pretty intense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trieste View Post
    Yes exactly, it's a bit thing on the mage forum. There was a long discussion for the arcane spec because they precast AB which is instant on the target so they can t take advantage of the "pre proc" of the trinkets. They were discussing about using Barrage pre pull to have two rppm trinket proc in a row like fire mage, moonkin, warlock... some of them were even using fruit basket to get the procs (but it has been fixed)

    I was surprised not reading anything about that on the hunter forum, especially for Bm for which the initial burst is a big part of the dps
    Are you telling me my boomkin pre-pulling on every fight is not doing it on accident? Cause wouldn't he have to basically pull the boss instead of the tank to not be in combat for the first cast, and be in combat right after for the second proc to go off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpthepope View Post
    So did the ptr today as MM and SV, MM was scewed because he was in careful aim phase way longer than he shouldve been. Also that SS hit was pretty intense
    if they do bring surv up to par tho its prob the best spec for that fight.

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    What changed in the latest 612-02 SimC? Same gear but simming up to 2k lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maldini View Post
    Effin you sure that sim is correct ? i recently tried to sim my character as orc, then i changed the race to troll and it was like only 30 dps diffrence, maybe troll gets better as the more gear you get but i dont know, maybe i didnt sim it correctly so its showing as minor dps increase from orc so it would be pointless wasting money race changing ;-)

    my hunter is currently 687 ilvl.
    As Tehterokkar mentioned, BiS gear. For the vast majority of hunters, it is highly, highly unlikely that switching your race is going to make much of a dps difference at all on your logs. The racials are as close as we've ever seen them.

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    If you are absolutely dead set on min/maxing your racials, it's worth noting that they run into the same issue as on-use trinkets versus procs. An intelligent and effective player can get much more out of an on-use ability than will be shown on a Patchwerk sim, regardless of ilvl, because you can use it to greater effect for specific boss mechanics and burn phases.

    That said, it will still be so close that you'd never notice a difference on a pull-to-pull basis. Unless you're rolling a new toon or really have the money burning in your pocket for a race change, it's not worth worrying about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effinhunter View Post
    As Tehterokkar mentioned, BiS gear. For the vast majority of hunters, it is highly, highly unlikely that switching your race is going to make much of a dps difference at all on your logs. The racials are as close as we've ever seen them.
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    Why exactly Stampede is better than AMoC for survi? Pretty sure in HM AMoC was better. What changed? Is stampede still worth on fights that are shorter than 5 mins?
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    February 24, 2015 - Official Patch Notes for Patch 6.1
    Stampede now lasts 40 seconds (up from 20 seconds).

    also stampede currently doing about 700k-900k damage for that 40 seconds, so compare it to like 5 AmoC and im only getting like 90k~ from each AMoC.
    Last edited by Xerinn; Today at 09:54 PM.

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    Oh thanks, I missed that... silly me. Cheers

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    Approximately how much DPS do I lose out on if I gem/enchant multistrike instead of mastery for BM? Assuming I have 0-3 gems.

    I'm geared in all heroic and a few mythic pieces (including Dragonspine mythic), 4 set.

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