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  1. #441
    Quote Originally Posted by RefreshmentTable View Post
    Wow is dying, yes.
    So are all of us.
    So is our sun - in just a few billion years it will be nothing but a smouldering brown rock

    Seriously, though, that 6.2 million subscribers is still WAY healthier than any other MMOs out there. Yeah they've dropped more customers in the last 5 years than any other MMO has ever had. If the trend continues maybe they'll have to consider going F2P in another 5, and shutting down a few years later. WOW is probably past its prime, but it's outlived every game that I've ever seen talked about in these forums as a "WOW-killer" and it's still got a couple of expansions worth of life left in it.

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    This is a dumb thread.

    You guys keep talking about numbers but forget most of the losses in subs is from China and other Asian countries. Since they mostly pay hourly why bother paying for a game with such long content droughts ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invid View Post
    This is a dumb thread.

    You guys keep talking about numbers but forget most of the losses in subs is from China and other Asian countries. Since they mostly pay hourly why bother paying for a game with such long content droughts ?
    The same is happening over here on US/EU servers.
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    Yes, I can say it is. I can also say it hasn't hit a point where it reaches a precipitous drop into obscurity, so saying it's dead wouldn't be accurate.

    I also think it can recover from it's four or five year slump if it repairs it's reward mechanisms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctredors View Post
    removing the ingame store
    Why would anyone give a shit about the microtransactions? You can easily just, you know, not fucking buy them.

    On topic: WoW will be "dying" when it starts generating deficit, not profit. Subscriber numbers are nice, and are obviously a factor in profits, but as of right now we see quickly declining subscriber numbers yet stable/increasing profits (seems like there is a lot of truth to their "mostly in the East" claims regarding subscriber losses). Call me when WoW actually starts losing money, then I will worry about WoW dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FpicEail View Post
    Why would anyone give a shit about the microtransactions? You can easily just, you know, not fucking buy them.

    On topic: WoW will be "dying" when it starts generating deficit, not profit. Subscriber numbers are nice, and are obviously a factor in profits, but as of right now we see quickly declining subscriber numbers yet stable/increasing profits (seems like there is a lot of truth to their "mostly in the East" claims regarding subscriber losses). Call me when WoW actually starts losing money, then I will worry about WoW dying.
    More digital store content can offset lost subscribers. Especially when the content is more expensive than one month of gameplay.

    No surprise they're still posting profits. However, the servers are still steadily emptying out, and merges are still rolling. Hallmark of a game in decline.
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  7. #447
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Around the time Wrath launched Blizzard commented that between two and three times the current player population had played WOW which suggests that the majority of players did not play for long and the amount of players joining the game masked the amount leaving. They also said that only between 1-2% of players had stepped in/completed Naxx/SWP which suggests that the majority of players were not playing the most difficult content. It is ridiculous to suggest that players joined and stayed the game because less than 5% of them was engaged with difficult content.

    The game grew because it hit an untapped market.
    Most players who don't do Heroic content, aren't going to stick around for long. People wait for an expansion, play for a few months and then quit their subscription. Why? Cause they don't do hard content. This will never change, as the introduction to LFR has shown that players are still leaving. Most of WoW's content except for raiding and PvP can be completed within a few weeks. Hardcore raiders and PvPers can also complete the game in a relatively short time, if they're truly good. They quit cause they don't want to pay that subscription fee. The ones who stick around are either having a hard time in raids or have nothing better to do.

    To me it seems that subscription cost is still the #1 reason people quit WoW. The lack of a challenging game content is why some of them never come back.

  8. #448
    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Most players who don't do Heroic content, aren't going to stick around for long. People wait for an expansion, play for a few months and then quit their subscription. Why? Cause they don't do hard content. This will never change, as the introduction to LFR has shown that players are still leaving. Most of WoW's content except for raiding and PvP can be completed within a few weeks. Hardcore raiders and PvPers can also complete the game in a relatively short time, if they're truly good. They quit cause they don't want to pay that subscription fee. The ones who stick around are either having a hard time in raids or have nothing better to do.

    To me it seems that subscription cost is still the #1 reason people quit WoW. The lack of a challenging game content is why some of them never come back.
    You have no way of knowing this. Again this is more supposition that is not backed up with actual data. Over 90% of the population never engage in the most challenging content. Players were leaving before LFR. Wouldn't most of WOW's content being able to be completed in a matter of weeks point to a lack of content? Again more assumption.

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    I doubt it will ever really die. Ultima Online is still running and still charging a sub fee for over 15 years. It is obviously on the downward spiral.
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