And as for alts gearing up the later in the expansion you gear up the easier it is for a geared up raid group to drag you to the loot, with the invention of cross realm oqueue this became infinitely easier as you could gear up with flex gear in your free time. I know in the future you can't invite people with a higher ilevel than you but there is nothing stopping your higher ilevel friend from doing the inviting, gauranteeing a carry.
LFR has been one of the most successful and popular additions to the game since it's inception - and everyone knows this. Debating about it's removal from the game, let alone for 50 pages, is downright fucking delusional. It's like going to a kid's birthday party and starting up a debate about how much you hate cupcakes.
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Someone who relies on PuGs for raids has a choice: Do LFR or stop relying on PuGs for raids. Either one is a viable solution, so LFR is not fucking mandatory. That's just it.
Now here comes the "no way, I landed 4 burdens and a warforged drop on my first visit to TI" anecdotes.
But it's fading away from my mind
There's another "me" waiting behind
If it's mandatory it's because you either didn't want to do any alternative gearing because it required more effort than LFR or you just were not looking for other ways to gear up.
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Essentia@Cho'gall of Inebriated Raiding.
It's basically trying to defund it via whiney bitching because unlike a politician these guys don't have any influence what so ever.
I'll also argue that some people liked to complain about tier and trinkets in lfr but if they were going into a flex and they had the choice between a healer in LFR gear with trinkets and tier and a guy in all non-tier lfr gear with dungeon trinkets they would choose the tiered lfr guy in a heartbeat because it benefitted their run but if it didn't directly impact their run they were totally against it.
Also note that Celestials ACTUALLY drop Normal Raid tier gloves and tier pants for no effort which you could zerg if you died. The gloves in particular had a high chance of dropping, of my 10 man guild everyone had theirs by week 3 of the celestials. half had the pants too. It took me 2 months to get the pants personally. But no one complains about them because they are not in LFR and they hates the LFRitses, Hates them! Hate's them I do! They stoles my precious purples! Stoles them they did! Nastey LFRitses... Nastey...
2. If you don't like 'optional' then try 'unnecessary'. You can get to exactly the same place--heroic mode raiding--by doing any number of other things that aren't LFR. If you can't refuse LFR then that's your problem. If there are no flying mounts in WoD, I'll miss them but I'll get by fine without them.
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The cake is now an alternative fact.
So I only did a full LFR clear once so far for both ToT and SoO. I got into Flex using what gear I got from those initial runs, Timeless Isle and Arena. I'm also a tank though and people where people are more willing to be a bit more lenient since they are harder to find. People can be brutal on DPS reqs because of how expendable they are.
So as LFR stands I'm fine with it now I guess since I don't have to it. Even if I did it would be only for a few bosses. My biggest concern as mentioned in the video in my OP is LFR kind of get's rid of a lot motivation in the game. I was very happy that I was able to down Rag in a 10 man pug, it wasn't easy but it felt good when I did. Killing Deathwing though on LFR....I had no motivation to go further since I killed him already besides "better purplez"
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Yes, and the fact that they have more than one way to accomplish that goal means LFR isn't mandatory. IF you want to rely on PuGs then you probably need some LFR gear but you don't have to rely on PuGs. Therefore, not fucking mandatory. k?The condition here is that said player wants to raid something past LFR.
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sometimes those opinions are wrong though." Daxxarri
But ofc the team has increased in size, so the game is now costing more to uphold and develop. I am sure somebody expects it to make that back in cold hard cash.
EDIT: I just noticed I did a necro here. But this thread just popped up as "Newest forum posts" - No clue why.
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— Alan Moore
Going to close this. Since it's been two years and LFR has definitely not been phased out, I don't see this as a timeless thread.
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