I like LW, don't know if it will be the to-go talent but at least we have a petless option. But devs have to fix pet related abilities/talents like master's call, spirit bond, intimidation and blink strikes.
I like LW, don't know if it will be the to-go talent but at least we have a petless option. But devs have to fix pet related abilities/talents like master's call, spirit bond, intimidation and blink strikes.
The difference though is a spec requirement of a demon vs an aesthetic talent of no pet. If there was a petless spec, then you would get those other options. That being said, Bliz likes to use talents and glyphs to test out features. I wouldn't be surprised of we get an overhaul in 7.0 similar to that of warlocks and get marks or survival retooled as petless. Just speculation on my part though.
The problems with Lone Wolf are made a bit more egregious when pets in general have been buffed for WoD. The cost outstrips the benefits. There have been many thoughts on how to remedy this (by giving the hunter solo versions of various pet-required abilities/talents) but have fallen on deaf ears.
In any case, it is a problematic talent because while it a requested and welcome play-style choice it is difficult to balance, if you make have all the utility of taking a pet and give it top marks in dps gain you risk it becoming a catch-all talent. I don't envy how carefully they have to tread with it.
if it currently stands, i don't see many people seriously taking it. maybe they'll take it to try out, but i cant see someone sticking with that choice. you just give up too much
I'm thinking you must just be viewing pet as dps. In the case you mentioned above, yes LW would be better, as some dps is better than none with a despawned pet. But pets bring much more to the table than just a dps boost. thats what i meant when i said you give up too much by taking LW.
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well, if the major reasoning behind not taking LW is because your raid needs a certain buff and you're the only one who can provide it, then that's a reason not to take LW. On the otherhand, I've been in groups/raids where my pet's buff doesn't matter because we've got our bases covered so there would be a time when LW probably would be pretty good. Although, I could have sworn I saw them say something about missing buffs (I don't care enough to find/quote it) unless they changed their minds.
I personally don't think I'll ever need it, I primarily PvP and a pet is much more than just a buff, even if they do remove pet CC abilities. It's good for keeping healers in combat among other things. On top of that, even though I've been MM for pvp I've always been partial to BM - I like my Silithid... it's weird but I like the way it jumps around and wags its tail like a puppy. Kinda hoping BM takes the crown as king of pvp specs for hunter again.
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Someone hasn't even bothered to read up the ability he is commenting on aye?
Lone Wolf also gives you a drop down list of selectable buffs you can provide wich include all raid buffs our pets can provide (1 at a time)
There is still the part where Lone Wolf can not provide debuffs that our pets provide but those were usualy the last in the list that i have been asked to provide as a hunter in raid enviroment in MoP.
I remember the first time i saw Lone Wolf being introduced first thing that came to me was to say that if it doesn't provide the buffs our pets provide it will be uterly neglected unless it's OP and it won't be OP so they had to add buffs ... and so they did right after
Yep.
The problems with Lone Wolf IMO right now are:
- It does not provide a petless version of Master's Call (important for PvP)
- It should give a small damage buff to Multishot (something like 10% or 15%). All other talents in Level 100 provide some boost for AoE (Focusing Shot is indirect: it allows you to use more AoE abilities due to quicker Focus regen).
Put those and the talent becomes perfect.
No, it doesn't. You are not aware of the latest changes, it seems.
LW gave up 30% increased damage to all attacks once, but in more recent builds it was changed to 30% to specific shots, which are: autoshot, Cobra Shot, Arcane Shot, Explosive Shot, Black Arrow, Steady Shot, Aimed Shot, Chimaera Shot and Kill Shot. It has no impact on talents, Multishot, Serpent Sting and other attacks (thought I read somewhere it is increasing Barrage damage, but it's not listed in the tooltip).
They removed the 30% to all damage because it was too good, and I agree with them. However, it should have at least some impact on Multishot for the above defined reasons. It can't be the full 30% increase because it would make it too powerful as well compared to other talents in the same row. As such, they should give it a 10 to 15% damage increase.
Last edited by DeicideUH; 2014-09-06 at 09:16 PM.