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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Galluccio View Post
    I just don't get people. They put out an expansion slowly and people bitch. They say they're going to push out an expansion more quickly and people bitch. Damned if they do, damned if they don't
    I wish people would get it out of their heads that its about the expansion, its not! Its about the 12 months of NOTHING that precedes it!

    A consistent patch cycle within a full 2 year expansion in my opinion would be much better.

    At this rate the paint on my Garrison would have barely dried before I need to ship out and fight the next big bad.

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    "Working on" in BlizzardSpeak means, "Hey I saw Metzen at the watercooler and we totally talked about the possibility of another expac"
    It will also be ready when it's ready and they will show more details Soon(tm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotcha View Post
    I wish people would get it out of their heads that its about the expansion, its not! Its about the 12 months of NOTHING that precedes it!

    A consistent patch cycle within a full 2 year expansion in my opinion would be much better.

    At this rate the paint on my Garrison would have barely dried before I need to ship out and fight the next big bad.
    Prolly wouldn't of been 12 months of nothing if they stopped releasing each raid so quickly after the next so early on and than letting everyone skip them before they finished them. IE: EVeryone piled into SoO before even finishing ToT i guarantee you

    "Ughh i'm not doing the latest content as random player #41414 Blizzard let me skip 2 tiers!" That's how it goes down and most people who say their is nothing to do are the guys with 0 normal kills.
    Happy with WoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotcha View Post
    I wish people would get it out of their heads that its about the expansion, its not! Its about the 12 months of NOTHING that precedes it!
    you do realize the person you just quoted said the same thing as you just did, right?

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Rae888 View Post
    This has always been the case with every expansion.

    No, this is not the case, they've only worked on the next expansion during the course of a current expansion. They didn't start WotLK during Vanilla. They didn't start Cata during TBC. They didn't start MoP during WotLK.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    you do realize the person you just quoted said the same thing as you just did, right?
    No. That is not the case. He said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Galluccio View Post
    I just don't get people. They put out an expansion slowly and people bitch. They say they're going to push out an expansion more quickly and people bitch. Damned if they do, damned if they don't
    I said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dotcha View Post
    I wish people would get it out of their heads that its about the expansion, its not! Its about the 12 months of NOTHING that precedes it!
    Its not the same at all. The point being everyone keeps saying that faster expansions is the way to combat content drought, but so are content patches. Its the lack of content that the game is suffering from, not the length of an expansion.

    Blizzard increases its development team to combat this and they could have done two things:

    A) Have half the team develop content patches for the current expansion, while the other half works on the next expansion at a 2 year cycle.
    B) Have the whole team pushout current content and an expansion within a year.

    Low and behold Blizzard chose the route which has a bigger pay off.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by ribald View Post
    Holy shit, normally I'd just ignore this kind of batshit logic but today I'm not in the mood.

    No, noooo.

    You already pay about £100 a year in subs, a fair proportion of which is meant to be spent on patch content. There is no way you can then turn around and say you want them to give you less for that £100 and charge you more regularly for expansions. Do you want them to raise the sub fee whilst they're at it?

    Sorry If I sound like an arsehole, but please stop thinking like this, and please stop making excuses for a company who you dont owe anything.
    Never said anything about price, so hold your horses mate.

    I was talking about how I'd prefer to see the content. Would of course agree that if xpacs are shorter and coming out more frequent then the price would need revisiting but that was not my response.

    Not sure what batshit logic you thought you saw but evidently misread or not clarified by me. I would guess the first comment re your state of mood has made you overreact.
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  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by ribald View Post
    You already pay about £100 a year in subs, a fair proportion of which is meant to be spent on patch content.
    INB4 a Blizzard apologist says subscriptions are you 'renting' the use of your character. Which is crap because it clearly was their business model and intention from the beginning that would also be used to fund development of new content. But it gives you an idea of the type of people we're dealing with.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Dotcha View Post
    INB4 a Blizzard apologist says subscriptions are you 'renting' the use of your character. Which is crap because it clearly was their business model and intention from the beginning that would also be used to fund development of new content. But it gives you an idea of the type of people we're dealing with.
    Or how about not putting words into imaginary people's mouths and creating a strawman argument.

    "I bet someone says this. But that would be stupid. See how stupid this sounds? That's who we're dealing with."

  10. #130
    They should probably work longer for a GOOD expansion instead of rushing everything for money.

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    I'm guessing story, art and music are mostly done. While the bug, systems and balancing people are still at work on wod.

  12. #132
    The real question is why should they release any faster? After all, a good many of you people give them your money every single month no matter what they do.

    It's probably a simple math formula for them where they weigh potential additional revenue from new content vs additional costs from development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxJr View Post
    I dont think you get it. Warlords of Draenor isn't out yet, and they are already working on the expansion that comes after WoD.
    Yeah, and they always say that. It's not stealing any work power from WoD development. They worked on WoD while MoP was in beta, and look how little they had done when it was announced.. "Working on" in this case is ideas and art at most, not actual content creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camthur View Post
    The real question is why should they release any faster? After all, a good many of you people give them your money every single month no matter what they do.

    It's probably a simple math formula for them where they weigh potential additional revenue from new content vs additional costs from development.
    Uhm, I think you're missing the part where the price of the expansion itself is equal to other brand new games, and more than pays for development.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewor View Post
    Or how about not putting words into imaginary people's mouths and creating a strawman argument.

    "I bet someone says this. But that would be stupid. See how stupid this sounds? That's who we're dealing with."
    There is no strawman. I've seen it everywhere, fansites and official forums how x is not covered by the sub fee or you don't own your character the sub rents it, blah blah blah.

  15. #135
    I guess Activision has finally got WoW to where they want it, they'll churn out a new mediocre xpack annually I bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Nothing new really, they always have an expansion in the works, hell they had TBC being made while Vanilla was out, same with WOTLK when TBC was out.
    They have a team working on 7.0 right now, the new zones, races, ect. 6.0 is NOT out yet. They are discussing 8.0, 9.0, and 10.0. This is a first time.

    Will have to wait and see. I really only play WoW for mounts now anyway.
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  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by alexkeren View Post
    No, this is not the case, they've only worked on the next expansion during the course of a current expansion. They didn't start WotLK during Vanilla. They didn't start Cata during TBC. They didn't start MoP during WotLK.
    You can find interviews going back to Vanilla where they have talked about countless hypotheticals being juggled to one extent or another. On the WOTLK collector's edition making of featurette it was said they have around 30 Hero Classes in various conceptual stages, THIRTY. Some have interpreted that remark as a joke or snarky remark.

    You really have no idea what was being worked on when, and what Chilton means now in terms of plans beyond vague ideas they want to tackle along with half explored experimental mechanics out the wazoo.

    For instance, Chris Robinson has said they've messed with a depth of field effect it he engine more than one time and decided against having one. Who knows what crazy things are alive on a computer in Irvine somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    I'm just curious if they will tell us what it is at Blizzcon. I doubt it, but it would be cool.
    I'm curious about this too. If they really intend to have a 12-month expansion with Warlords they won't be announcing the next one at Blizzcon otherwise. It's this one or nothing.

    A well-paced 18-month expansion would be better perhaps. Otherwise it's sort of mind-boggling to think we could be in beta for the one after Warlords in nine months. I suppose they could announce something and not give up a lot of details about it. Some sort of event like they had with the cinematic for Warlords might have been a dry run for non-Blizzcon major announcements. Other than tradition they don't really need to wait for Blizzcon to announce anything. And if they have events like the cinematic reveal they can cut down or avoid altogether annoying questions from subscribers.
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  19. #139
    Oh, I'm sure they enjoy that 100+ million dollar infusion they get whenever they release an expansion. However, they probably pull that in per month easily between subscriptions and the market. Every month they push an expansion off is just another one where they get a chunk of change in their pocket. Sure, they might lose some people over those months, but they still are making a massive profit in the mean time.

    People might get bored from no content, but they chew through it so fast that it's pretty much impossible to not have bored people around.

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