Cops kill 'Cops' crew member while trying to "apprehend" robbery suspect.

[Crissi]

Right? I asked the same damn thing. How did he get shot?

Normally the crew is behind or directly to the side.

THe MSN article said the guy that got shot got separated form the camera man. So he probably blundered into line of fire on accident.

[cFortyfive]

30 shots fired? I wonder, if they'd shot only 29 times, perhaps the Cops crew member wouldn't have been hit and killed?

Well or at least aimed at not the bystander but the guy with the "gun" but probably sight was obstructed from inhaling too many donuts or whatever.

[Tinykong]

Oh look, another case of a person refusing to disarm.

[Deleted]

One of the reasons i love living in ireland :P

[Klingers]

"Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?"

[Rukentuts]

Jeez what will be a shootable offense next week?

[Drsolders]

Jeez what will be a shootable offense next week?

If you don't think someone pointing a weapon that looks exactly like a gun from a distance at a cop is not a reason to get shot, you need your head examined. Then again maybe they should have used a taser and just waited to see if it was a real one.

[Crissi]

Jeez what will be a shootable offense next week?

You shoot at someone, you're probably gonna get shot at back. I dont think the cops rather take the chance of themselves getting killed by not shooting bakc and taking the time to analyze if the weapon is in fact, a BB gun.

[diddle]

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/co...olice-shooting

"The suspect fired from the pellet gun before officers returned fire, Police Chief Todd Schmaderer said at a news conference.He said witnesses and officers thought the robbery suspect's Airsoft handgun looked and sounded real, but discovered later that it fires only plastic pellets."

While a BB gun isnt fatal, I highly doubt there was a way to tell if that was BB gun ahead of time before they fired back.

I mena I know this is going to get a lot of shit, but according to the article I linked, the guy fired first so the officers responded. Unless you dont want cops to shoot back even if shot at.

Airsoft guns make essentially no noise when fired - if you're close enough to hear the noise you're close enough to realize the gun is plastic. Not to say the victim wasn't a dipshit, but 30 shots seems excessively ignorant.

[Drsolders]

Airsoft guns make essentially no noise when fired - if you're close enough to hear the noise you're close enough to realize the gun is plastic. Not to say the victim wasn't a dipshit, but 30 shots seems excessively ignorant.

The thing is again, they fire to empty their clip period. They do not fire one shot, or two shots. When you are forced to chose a lethal course of action you don't shoot to use non-lethal force. I understand it seems rough but that's just the way it is.

[tss]

Jeez what will be a shootable offense next week?

Someone pointing a gun at you isn't one? The fuck is wrong with you?

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[Phookah]

While I totally understand why they were firing on him (That gun looks WAAAAYY real), people saying "Well you don't just shoot a couple of times, this isn't CoD where you save bullets for the next guy" is wrong. There is something wrong with our police force that needs to be changed when its common place for six officers to empty an entire clip at someone.
http://rt.com/usa/us-germany-85-shots-022/
The entirety of Germany fired 85 shots total, over a year. 49 were warning shots.
Now you might be saying "Well the U.S is much bigger than Germany!" You're right, about 4 times bigger. So multiply 85 by 4, you get 340.
For perceptive, here's a case where officers shot at the WRONG vehicle and two innocent women 103 times.
103. http://www.thewire.com/national/2014...-fired/357771/
Ridiculous.

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Someone pointing a gun at you isn't one? The fuck is wrong with you?

I think your sarcasm detector is broken.

[Crissi]

While I totally understand why they were firing on him (That gun looks WAAAAYY real), people saying "Well you don't just shoot a couple of times, this isn't CoD where you save bullets for the next guy" is wrong. There is something wrong with our police force that needs to be changed when its common place for six officers to empty an entire clip at someone.
http://rt.com/usa/us-germany-85-shots-022/
The entirety of Germany fired 85 shots total, over a year. 49 were warning shots.
Now you might be saying "Well the U.S is much bigger than Germany!" You're right, about 4 times bigger. So multiply 85 by 4, you get 340.
For perceptive, here's a case where officers shot at the WRONG vehicle and two innocent women 103 times.
103. http://www.thewire.com/national/2014...-fired/357771/
Ridiculous.

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I think your sarcasm detector is broken.

However, what is the rate of German citizenry owning guns? That's often the big factor here in the U.S. I imagine German police shoot less cause their criminals are less likely to own a gun to shoot back with.

[Phookah]

However, what is the rate of German citizenry owning guns? That's often the big factor here in the U.S. I imagine German police shoot less cause their criminals are less likely to own a gun to shoot back with.

I don't disagree with you, but regardless the point still stands: It seems like our police are trained to just kill first, ask questions later. (Which in a case with a hostile suspect firing on you is completely reasonable, however that's not always the case.) It seems messed up that we have such a ridiculously high police violence rate compared to other countries. Might say something about our gun laws but that's for another thread.

[Dequanacus]

Airsoft guns make essentially no noise when fired - if you're close enough to hear the noise you're close enough to realize the gun is plastic. Not to say the victim wasn't a dipshit, but 30 shots seems excessively ignorant.

30 shots seems excessively ignorant

You're drastically underestimating how hard it is to kill someone.

[Bigbazz]

The guy could have been holding a banana and they still would have shot him if he pointed it at them.

[Fang7986]

While I totally understand why they were firing on him (That gun looks WAAAAYY real), people saying "Well you don't just shoot a couple of times, this isn't CoD where you save bullets for the next guy" is wrong. There is something wrong with our police force that needs to be changed when its common place for six officers to empty an entire clip at someone.
http://rt.com/usa/us-germany-85-shots-022/
The entirety of Germany fired 85 shots total, over a year. 49 were warning shots.
Now you might be saying "Well the U.S is much bigger than Germany!" You're right, about 4 times bigger. So multiply 85 by 4, you get 340.
For perceptive, here's a case where officers shot at the WRONG vehicle and two innocent women 103 times.
103. http://www.thewire.com/national/2014...-fired/357771/
Ridiculous.

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I think your sarcasm detector is broken.

Here's the thing every cop has to fire because if a cop is going to assume another cop is going to fire you are going to end up with dead cops &/or other people and the other thing real life isn't tv shooting someone you think is a threat once isn't a guarantee they are going to be stop being a threat it's harsh but them being dead does guarantee it and more bullets=better odds they are dead.

[Puremallace]

Seriously thinking if some shit goes down at my house ever I am not calling the cops. It might be best ot take care of stuff myself after watching all this crazy shit in the US. Cops are out of control and terrible fucking shots.

[Fang7986]

If you don't think someone pointing a weapon that looks exactly like a gun from a distance at a cop is not a reason to get shot, you need your head examined. Then again maybe they should have used a taser and just waited to see if it was a real one.

If it was a real gun getting tazed isn't a 100% guarantee he still wouldn't be able to shoot someone with it. Until Star Trek gets here and we have weapons that instantly incapacitate someone this is still gonna happen.

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Seriously thinking if some shit goes down at my house ever I am not calling the cops. It might be best ot take care of stuff myself after watching all this crazy shit in the US. Cops are out of control and terrible fucking shots.

Yeah except these incidents are like .001% of all the incidents cops are involved in but they are the ones that bring in ratings so they are the only ones you hear about

[Christan]

Tragic. =( I dunno about the way the airsoft gun sounded, but I'd imagine that if you're a cop in that situation you don't really wait to see if the sound is right. Spur of the moment you don't know if he has a silencer, or if you just missed something, or what.

or if a bullet wasn't in the chamber but next shot would have one.

i don't feel sorry for the robber at all, but the other guy that was shot... is kind of sad, w/e darwinism in play, get between cops and their suspect is like getting between hungry dogs and a piece of meat (REAL bad analogy i know...)

If it was a real gun getting tazed isn't a 100% guarantee he still wouldn't be able to shoot[/COLOR]

true, electricity can cause muscles to contract not only seize up, can lead to trigger being squeezed, wouldn't be a problem unless he was aiming it at that exact time he was tased though.