Myth of arctic meltdown.

[Darsithis]

Please stop the off-topic discussion of Orlong's post and return to the topic at hand. Thanks!

[Naxere]

It is too expensive still, agreed. But there's a $35k model supposedly coming out within 2 years.

$35k is still too expensive for the average family.

[Kujako]

$35k is still too expensive for the average family.

(shrug) average maintenance cost on a gas car is around 9k a year. You can lease a Fiat 500e for $179/month.

[Cthulhu 2020]

$35k is still too expensive for the average family.

Technology becomes cheaper with time. It's impractical cost wise to be widely used just yet, but Tesla released their patent just so that electric viability would spread. Supercharging stations won't be Tesla only either because of this. Their mission isn't just to make money, it's to enact a greater good. It's how a business should operate, with both money and ethics in mind.

Don't worry though, I'm pretty sure if Republicans get their way in November, you won't have to worry about that, as even fewer Americans will be able to afford even a used car.

[Naxere]

Don't worry though, I'm pretty sure if Republicans get their way in November, you won't have to worry about that, as even fewer Americans will be able to afford even a used car.

Sounds like something the Democrats would be all for. Going green, more people biking and using mass transit!

[Wells]

One wonders what nations get to do the approved science.

[ringpriest]

I also notice how almost all of them are either communist (China, etc...) or Socialist European countries, where the government and universities who did the studies benefit from all the tax increases (governments directly, universities through grants and subsidies, and payments to do studies). None of the are from the US

United States
- Atmospheric Sciences Research Center, State University of New York, Albany, NY
- Big Sky Institute, Montana State University, Bozeman, MT
- Biodiversity Research Center and Natural History Museum, University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS
- Byrd Polar Research Center, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH
- Center for Accelerator Mass Spectrometry, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories, Livermore, CA
- Center for Climatic Research, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Center for Environmental Sciences and Quaternary Sciences Program, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ
- Center for Isotope Geochemistry, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA
- Center for Materials Research and Education, Smithsonian Institution, Suitland, MD
- Center for Sustainability and the Global Environment, Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, WI
- Climate Change Institute, University of Maine, Orono, ME
- Climate Change Research Center, University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH
- Climate System Research Center, Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
- Coastal and Marine Geology, U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, CA
- College of Forest Resources, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
- College of Marine Science, University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, FL
- College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR
- Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, University of Colorado at Boulder, Boulder, CO
- Department of Anthropology, University of California at San Diego, La Jolla, California
- Department of Anthropology, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Department of Anthropology, Washington State University, WA
- Department of Anthropology, Western State College, Gunnison, CO
- Department of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences, University at Albany-State University of New York, Albany, NY
- Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of California, Los Angeles, CA
- Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Colorado at Boulder, Boulder, CO
- Department of Biological Sciences, Florida International University, Miami, FL
- Department of Biological Sciences, University of Alaska, Anchorage, AK
- Department of Biological Sciences, University of North Carolina, NC
- Department of Biology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO
- Department of Biology, Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT
- Department of Biology, University of California, Los Angeles, CA
- Department of Biology, University of California, Santa Cruz, CA
- Department of Botany, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Department of Botany, University of Wyoming, Laramie, WY
- Department of Chemistry, State University of New York-ESF, Syracuse, NY
- Department of Computer Science, University of Maine, Orono, ME
- Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA
- Department of Earth and Ocean Sciences, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC
- Department of Earth and Planetary Science, University of New Mexico, Alburquerque, NM
- Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Rutgers, The State University, New Brunswick, NJ
- Department of Earth and Space Sciences, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
- Department of Earth Sciences, California State University, Dominguez Hills, Carson, CA
- Department of Earth Sciences, Heroy Geology Laboratory, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
- Department of Earth Sciences, Indiana University - Purdue University, Indianapolis, IN
- Department of Earth Sciences, Montana State University, Bozeman, MT
- Department of Earth Sciences, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
- Department of Earth Sciences, University of California, Riverside, CA
- Department of Earth Sciences, University of California, Santa Cruz, CA
- Department of Earth Sciences, University of Maine, Orono, ME
- Department of Earth Sciences, University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH
- Department of Earth Sciences, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
- Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of California, Los Angeles, CA
- Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology and Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research, The University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Department of Ecology and Limnological Research Center, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN
- Department of Geography, Colgate University, Hamilton, NY
- Department of Geography, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH
- Department of Geography, University of California, Berkeley, CA
- Department of Geography, University of California-Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
- Department of Geography, University of Georgia, Athens, GA
- Department of Geography, University of South Florida, Tampa, FL
- Department of Geography, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Department of Geography, University of Wyoming, WY
- Department of Geological Sciences, Brown University, Providence, RI
- Department of Geological Sciences, California State University, Long Beach, CA
- Department of Geological Sciences, Land Use and Environmental Change Institute (LUECI), University of Florida, FL
- Department of Geological Sciences, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH
- Department of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO
- Department of Geological Sciences, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC
- Department of Geology, Bates College, Lewiston ME
- Department of Geology, Baylor University, Waco, TX
- Department of Geology, Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT
- Department of Geology, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ
- Department of Geology, The College of Wooster, Wooster, OH
- Department of Geology, University of Akron, Akron, OH
- Department of Geology, University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, OH
- Department of Geology, University of Georgia, Athens, GA
- Department of Geology, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Urbana, IL
- Department of Geology, University of Texas at Arlington, TX
- Department of Geology and Geography, Mount Holyoke College, South Hadley, MA
- Department of Geology and Geophysics, University of California, Berkeley, CA
- Department of Geology and Geophysics, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN
- Department of Geology and Geophysics, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA
- Department of Geology and Planetary Science, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA
- Department of Geoscience, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Department of Geosciences, Climate System Research Center, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
- Department of Geosciences, Morrill Science Center, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
- Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Department of Geosciences, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, AR
- Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
- Department of Geosciences, University of Nebraska, Lincoln, NE
- Department of Marine Chemistry and Geochemistry, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA
- Department of Marine Science, University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, FL
- Department of Marine Sciences, University of Puerto Rico, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico
- Department of Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI
- Department of Plant Biology, University of Illinois, Urbana, IL
- Department of Statistics, Baylor University, Waco, TX
- Desert Laboratory, U.S. Geological Survey and University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Earth and Environmental Science Program, New York University, NY
- Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA
- Earth and Ocean Sciences, Nicolas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences, Duke University, Durham, NC
- Environmental Science Department, Alaska Pacific University, Anchorage, AK
- Environmental Studies Program, Yale University, New Haven, CT
- EROS, U.S. Geological Survey, Sioux City, SD
- Florida Coastal Everglades Long-Term Ecological Research Program, Florida International University, Miami, FL
- Florida Integrated Science Center, United States Geological Survey, St. Petersburg, FL
- Geography Department, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA
- Geology and Planetary Science, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA
- Geology Department, State University of New York College at Cortland, Cortland, NY
- Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL
- Institute for Quaternary and Climate Studies, University of Maine, Orono, ME
- Institute for the Study of Planet Earth, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO
- Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, University of California, Los Angeles, CA
- Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences, Rutgers, The State University, New Brunswick, NJ
- Institute of Marine Studies, University of California, Santa Cruz, CA
- Jackson School of Geosciences, University of Texas at Austin, Austin, TX
- Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, Palisades, NY
- Large Lakes Observatory, University of Minnesota Duluth, Duluth, MN
- Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA
- Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Center for Accelerated Mass Spectrometry, Livermore, CA
- Limnological Research Center and Department of Geology and Geophysics, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN
- Lone Pine Research, Bozeman, MT
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA
- Mountain Research Center and Department of Biology, Montana State University, Bozeman, MT
- Museum of Comparative Zoology, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
- NASA/Goddard Institute for Space Studies, New York, NY
- National Center, U.S. Geological Survey, Reston, VA
- National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA
- National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD
- National Science Foundation-Arizona Accelerator Facility for Isotope Dating, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Natural Resources Division, Paul Smith's College, Paul Smiths, NY
- Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences, Duke University, Durham, NC
- NOAA Paleoclimatology Program, Boulder, CO
- NSF-Arizona AMS Facility, The University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- Pacific Fisheries Environmental Laboratory, Pacific Grove, CA
- Program in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Urbana, IL
- Radioactive Waste Management Associates, Bellows Falls, VT
- Raytheon Polar Services, Centennial, CO
- Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, University of Miami, Key Biscayne, FL
- School of Earth Sciences, Stanford University, Stanford, CA
- School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, Stony Brook University, Stony Brook
- School of Natural Resources, University of Nebraska, Lincoln, NE
- School of Natural Science, Hampshire College, Amherst, MA
- School of Public and Environmental Affairs, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN
- Scripps Institution of Oceanography, La Jolla, CA
- Sierra Nevada Research Center, Pacific Southwest Research Station, USDA Forest Service, Berkeley, CA
- Skidaway Institute for Oceanography, Savannah, GA
- South Florida Water Management District, West Palm Beach, FL
- Southeast Environmental Research Center, Florida International University, Miami, FL
- St. Croix Watershed Research Station, Science Museum of Minnesota, Marine on St. Croix, MN
- Tree-Ring Laboratory, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, NY
- Tree-Ring Laboratory, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Palisades, NY
- Tree Ring Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
- University of Maine, Department of Geological Sciences, ME
- U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Atlanta, GA
- U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Anchorage, AK
- U.S. Geological Survey, Center for Coastal and Marine Geology, St. Petersburg, FL
- U.S. Geological Survey, Denver, CO
- U.S. Geological Survey, Eastern Surface Processes Team, Reston, VA
- U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, CA
- U.S. Geological Survey, Santa Cruz, CA
- U.S. Geological Survey, St. Petersburg, FL
- White Mountain Research Station, Bishop, CA
- Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Woods Hole, MA

[Ahhdurr]

All those liberal elites don't know shit because grandma forwarded me an email that global warming is a hoax.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Sounds like something the Democrats would be all for. Going green, more people biking and using mass transit!

More like electric cars.

[SpcGuts]

I said MOST, NOT ALL, are either communist OR Socialist European. And I wouldnt believe ANY study that comes from Ethiopia. If they havent even figured out how to get rid of parasites from their water and build houses out of something other than mud, Im not going to believe they are smart enough to understand anything about the climate history

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't know what a communist or socialist state is. As of right now, there are no actual communist states in the world. There are only 11 socialist states. 7 of them are not attempting to become communist. Of the four that are Marxist–Leninist, China is the only one of significance.