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Essentia@Cho'gall of Inebriated Raiding.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ssentia/simple
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Tharkkun-1222
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people - Martin Luther King, Jr.
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people - Martin Luther King, Jr.
That isn't why it will be a bad expansion. It's a bad expansion because it drastically overhauls existing class mechanics in favor of simplified, boring gaming that guts identity for the sake of being easy. Garrisons are not the only thing we are getting either. Every time someone says this, I imagine their TV is set to Fox News. The least you could do is bitch about the legitimate problems with the expansion and stop regurgitating falsities so you can sound like you know what you're on about, which it's clear to anyone who knows anything about the beta, you don't.
I hate to burst your bubble, but this behaviour has a name (see: Entitlement) and is spread wide and far outside of WoW, or even gaming in general. We live in a world where a bleeding edge smartphone that's still pristine and fully functional will get traded in for the newer more bleeding edge smartphone as soon as it's released; not out of need for a faster device or new features... no, people do it for bragging rights, proof of social standing, as a means to "compete" with his or her peers.
What the blue poster replying to above player failed to point out is that you can get everything garrisons have to offer through alts.
Everquest wasn't any harder than WoW. It just double downed on the punishment for failure. The game itself was far easier than WoW but you had to deal with massive latency, disconnections, bad pathing, ridiculous aggro mechanics, etc. Wow can and is made hard in the highest difficulty. The difference is you don't get kicked in the balls and lose levels every time you die.
EQ also added the ability to summon corpses after the 1st expansion less than 2 years after the game was released. Has anybody seen my corpse? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKDkvy9sKuY
WoW removed a lot of the time sinks that were mirroring EQ's time sinks for no reason other than making things take more time.
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Essentia@Cho'gall of Inebriated Raiding.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ssentia/simple
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Tharkkun-1222
Kinda ironic, but I see you as the type of person that is wrong with the games or with people in general.
People who attack others with a different opinion than them.
People who attack others who don't like the same things they do.
People who attack others for just being different than them.
Lolz.
That’s not how I behave. If I have several things I don’t want, I give them up to my friends and family who do. If they don’t want them, I’ll ask if their friends and family are looking for said items. After that, I deliver to charity shops (I live in Scotland) or recycle depending on the items.
I just gave two thirds of my clothes away, just to clearly illustrate the type of person I am.
But let’s not argue about the metaphor, young Jedi, that’d be pointless. Let’s stick to the point I was making about the game:
1) Blizzard can give everyone all of the garrison plots.
2) There’s no sharing of resources in the system.
3) Players won’t know what combination they want until they’re built.
4) Content can be “elongated” in other ways.
5) Content exclusion hasn’t worked out well at all to this point.
6) The “choice” offered is no more a choice than any other system.
In short, there’s no legitimate reason not to let players have all of the garrison buildings. “Choice”, if they want to promote it, could be done in many different ways rather than just restricting buildings. Instead of giving players choices, they’re actually taking them away.
But here’s the real kicker:
They’re concentrating on bonuses rather than the sheer fun of building and managing your own base, which is a mistake.
It’s a mistake because they’re designing a feature to buff other parts of the game, which removes choice for players who are only bothering with their garrison for the bonus. For those who don’t care about the bonuses, well, they’re just losing the fun of building the best base possible.
In short, nobody wins.
It’s not a kindness if they don’t want what they’re giving away. That’ll become apparent to you when you get just a little older.
See? I can make completely irrelevant judgements on your age rather than trying to engage with your point, too.
Yes, but you can catch up given enough time. There are a few players out there who’ve completed every achievement in the game, thus “they’ve completed the game”. They didn’t choose to do one thing or the other, they chose to invest the time into doing everything.
Restricting buildings is just stopping people from doing something for no tangible reason.
I think it’s far more reasonable to allow players a bigger garrison with every available plot, than it is to tell players to slog through another character when they may not want to.
Rubbish. The fact you believe and even parrot the Blizzard line on this says you either played poorly designed classes, or never bothered to think about your own talent trees and just let others tell you what to do.
That’s not for me.
Having the ability to earn everything on one character (with effort) rather than having to use alts wouldn't be a bad thing...
That's essentially my argument.
For example, let's say you're limited to only three small plots, two medium plots and one large plot (totally made up numbers). That's your basic limit, but you can then spend resources to expand the garrison to six small plots, four medium and two large... With the costs of building them increased by 25% as they're not on "perfect" land.
Again, resources pull you up to 12, 8 and 4... With costs increased by 50%.
I'd support that.
With all due respect, people that post such nonsense should be ignored.
If I was Blizzard, I'd certainly ignore it (since you can't give a valid argument for such people/kids).
The problem with the wow playerbase is people making threads stating with definitive affirmation what is wrong with the wow playerbase. You're what's wrong with the wow playerbase you arrogant bastard.
I have 60+ exalted reputations, majority were before the reputations were made a joke to farm. I know what it's like to have to earn my things. Guess what? I'd love to have more plots too. I'd love to have every single building because it'd be fun to work towards each one of them. Gives me more things to strive for among the already large amount of stuff. Just because some of us want more plots, doesn't mean we want them handed to us on a silver platter. No, some of us just want more to work towards, a bigger base with all the exciting buildings available at hand.
That is pretty much the entirety of these forums, you make it sound like the type of person OP is talking about don't attack people who actually want challenge in the game........I don't suppose the terms "Special snowflake" or "Basement dwelling no lifers" sound familiar to you?
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people - Martin Luther King, Jr.
No, that doesn't describe the entirety of the forums. It doesn't even describe the majority of people who post on the forum. Also, just because someone is a jerk doesn't give anyone else the right to be a jerk. I can't believe someone would even try to justify their behavior in such a way... Try to be above the petty insults. Especially when they're untrue.
The problem here is that you people are assuming that all of those quotes are from one person. They're not. I saw the thread this guy is pulling from, this is several people- and that's just two posts out of- when I last saw it- SEVEN pages of almost the same thing, over and over.
You pretty much do ALL THE TIME, in every single one of your posts, the very thing you accuse me of: Attacking people because they have a different opinion than you.
Did I do that? No. I Pointed out an existing problem. And I have yet to see you arguing against me, instead of just insulting me, on ... well really no grounds but your imagination.
You belittled someone for having a different opinion then your own. Which is toxic to the community... Where's the attack in that? Maybe you need to read what I write instead of projecting your hate onto me.
I already said that I agreed with you about the plots. But, that isn't what your posts are about. Your posts are only here to try and shed light on something you think is a problem. The entitlement of gamers in WoW, and how that, and only that, is what is wrong with WoW. You're wrong. The problem with WoW is Blizzard's greed, and the community that hates each other. Instead of discussion what you think is a problem in a constructive way, you flame the people you disagree with calling them names.
If I called you delusional, would that not be an attack on you?
"The cultivated self-delusion of being entitled to everything the game has to offer."
"he just behaves like a kid in a store, blabbering and nagging 'BUT I WANT ANOTHER TOY! MOOOMMMMYYYY!'"
You STILL can't see that the person you're quoting isn't asking for everything handed to them... You won't either. Because it completely destroys your whine thread.