Thinking of rerolling as Guardian Druid

[Mueller Greyhound]

Can someone give me insight about Guardian Druid? How is it? Is it good or it got worse?

[Pappo]

From what i've seen guardian is still as strong as it is on live. The only flaw atm is our self healing but i'm pretty sure there must be a bug. Imho it's a great class to play.

[Illiterate]

Unless there were significant changes in the last build, guardians are still at the bottom.

[uzumati]

Rotationally its fairly boring, Survival wise we are pretty strong atm but its no longer an AM spam fest with rage gen limited you have to actually think a little about what to use when. Talents have alot of issues in beta, Incarnation being just about unusable since we are forced into SotF for rage gen and its interaction with Pulverise, lvl 90 talents are all just about equally crap, and the lvl 100 talents forces us into pulverize except for a very few fight specific instances when GoE will be beneficial.

But we get to be a BEAR!!!!!!!!!!

[Raugnaut]

We are much weaker compared to live, BUT so are all other tanks. Compared to other tanks come WoD, we are in a decent spot survival wise, we just have the most boring/simple rotation of them all.

[Mueller Greyhound]

We are much weaker compared to live, BUT so are all other tanks. Compared to other tanks come WoD, we are in a decent spot survival wise, we just have the most boring/simple rotation of them all.

So is druid stronger than BrM Monk? Or are all of the tank class about the same as others tank for WoD?

Also, how will anyone rate the tank from the best to worse? I heard warrior is good tank, is it true?

[xtramuscle]

So is druid stronger than BrM Monk? Or are all of the tank class about the same as others tank for WoD?

Also, how will anyone rate the tank from the best to worse? I heard warrior is good tank, is it true?

Currently warriors survive so well and gladiator stance is 2nd on dps lolwut

[Djuntas]

Guardian druid way to booring since MOP, thats my biggest beef.

[xtramuscle]

Guardian druid way to booring since MOP, thats my biggest beef.

Tauren druid - beef, i get it ah ha ha

[Mueller Greyhound]

I'm assuimg there will be one more tuning pass before WoD hits lives next 2 weeks? I hope there will be more good changes for guardian druid.

Currently warriors survive so well and gladiator stance is 2nd on dps lolwut

Is there any information about this?

[xtramuscle]

Someone linked a simcraft page last night but I didn't save the url. Ive searched a bit and can't find it, but will try and get my hands on it tonight and paste it here.

Edit: http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/raid-9-20-14.html

[Mueller Greyhound]

So it is protection warrior > guardian druid?

[xtramuscle]

So it is protection warrior > guardian druid?

Would seem that way. Kinda sad how 1 expansion ago they removed bear-catting and now make a whole new spec for gladiator warrior tank-dpsing

[Ooshraxa]

Would seem that way. Kinda sad how 1 expansion ago they removed bear-catting and now make a whole new spec for gladiator warrior tank-dpsing

You're not a tank in Gladiator spec. It's a fully fledged DPS spec, and will be flattened in the same way that other DPS specs do against bosses.
Now, if you wanted to question the wisdom in creating a fully fledged DPS spec that only requires an out of combat GCD to go from full DPS to full tank...

[Museigen]

Druid can't really have a more boring rotation than blood can it? Blood is 3 buttons and significant amounts of downtime between those 3 buttons. What is the rotation if someone doesn't mind posting?

That said I'm rolling out of dk into either paladin or druid, mostly for the sake of having 3 roles available considering how most gear changes with your spec in WoD. Leaning druid at the moment, any major reasons why I shouldn't be?

[Sonnillon]

I think, as far as I've fiddled around with my dudu in beta (only on level 90 yet though) it's lacerate x3 - mangle- refresh lacerate -mangle (when procs) maul (when procs) - Thrash. And keep SD up as much as you can (seems practically impossible -_-) or use FR.

[uzumati]

I think, as far as I've fiddled around with my dudu in beta (only on level 90 yet though) it's lacerate x3 - mangle- refresh lacerate -mangle (when procs) maul (when procs) - Thrash. And keep SD up as much as you can (seems practically impossible -_-) or use FR.

Kinda your gonna blow the 3 stack lac on pulv for the DR so Mangle>Lac>Pulverise(@3x Lac to keep buff up)>Thrash

AM = SD when available>pooling Maul procs for SD Downtime>FR as needed if available

[matthias9742]

Hey, thought I would pop in here since I am also at an impass for class changes in WoD. Right now I am trying to stick to one character that can heal and tank, and my choices are Monk or Druid. Hoping someone has more experience with both on beta than me, but is the difference between guardian vs. BrM worse than the difference between resto vs. MW?

[uzumati]

Hey, thought I would pop in here since I am also at an impass for class changes in WoD. Right now I am trying to stick to one character that can heal and tank, and my choices are Monk or Druid. Hoping someone has more experience with both on beta than me, but is the difference between guardian vs. BrM worse than the difference between resto vs. MW?

Probably best to wait for some tuning passes, atm tanks and heals are kinda all over the place.

[Gemini Soul]

Someone linked a simcraft page last night but I didn't save the url. Ive searched a bit and can't find it, but will try and get my hands on it tonight and paste it here.

Edit: http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/raid-9-20-14.html

I would take the results with a grain of salt, it's still beta and doubt that all of the action lists are set up properly for all the specs.