T17 Set bonus.
Is the 4p still 50% mana reduction to PoH while AA is active? I cant tell if the source I was looking at was accurate or not or when they supplied the info.
T17 Set bonus.
Is the 4p still 50% mana reduction to PoH while AA is active? I cant tell if the source I was looking at was accurate or not or when they supplied the info.
It's just for the first 6 seconds of AA being active.
Essentially the disc 2/4 set are both pretty damn weak compared to other healers - disc already has the best mana sustainability of all healers, and if we cast AA we're likely to be casting a PoH after for the aegis either way; so what 2+4 set gives is essentially a little boost in penance healing, and nothing usefull for 4 set.
Considering only two pieces have mastery (crit+mast chest, haste+mast legs), and 3 has haste, I'd think about it for awhile before taking the 4 set. If anything, disc should be lowest priority on the conq user list by far.
Because Penance may be on CD and you can't use PW:S again on target with WS?
Example of SG-friendly encounter: Hanz and Franz in BRF
A LOT of completely random high single target damage. During beta testing, Saving Grace scored really huge numbers there.
Even though, I'd recommend using it only with AA and going for 2 casts max before letting the debuff expire. 8 seconds is not that terrible.
I can totally imagine SG being to-go talent on this boss and maybe on few more in BRF mythic.
Also: don't forget that this spell used to cost 8,9% of your mana and debuff lasted 10 sec instead of 8.
Boosted big time indeed
Last edited by mmoc19a86bf4f1; 2015-01-28 at 01:03 AM.
I was wondering if the 4p set bonus would make SS worth specing into?
Hello Priests!
I got a log here from our Raid on the Twins yesterday. You'll find a Disc in there. I wonder if you guys might have a look at it and tell me what the player should do or not and what he could improve on basically. I hope that's not too much Im asking for!
Here we go: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...6&type=summary
Cheers,
Boldboy
He should not be specced in CoW, theres no need for it and takes to long to cast. Get rid of glyph of power word shield. And i think he should be casting more shields, make sure shields people with fire debuff/dots. He also didnt cast enough PoH. AA uptime is very poor
Edit: Dps also seems very low on some of your dpsers
Last edited by mmoc5829d1e13c; 2015-01-28 at 11:28 AM.
Thank you very much mate! Very helpful. And yes you are right DPS is low. Im taking care of that...
Not neccessarely. You'll already be overgearing almost all the mythics with a 685 average (as they can't be tuned higher than 695). Right now healers are probably the least geared in all guilds, and the 4 set helps a few of them A LOT with mana longevity (resto shamans especially need the set bonus to be competitive, for example). Remember, we're not going in here undergeared where all dps matters - we're going in with far more gear than can be expected for the first half bosses if you just started progressing.
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Can anyone confirm whether or not the 2P bonus activates on defensive Penance casts?
There's a chance to proc DA during defensive cast. I still prefer casting def Penance instead of one to the boss.
2pc def Penance > 2pc off Penance > Smite.
Wasting a GCD on HF? You are supposed to cast it on CD.
Wasting a GCD on Smite? Why would you ever cast Smite with 2pc?
There is a chance to proc DA via offensive Penance too. When AA is down, the difference between between using it offensively and defensively is minimized. If you know that your defensive cast is going to overheal, you're much better off using it offensively for the extra stack to save you mana and a GCD.
There is also no reason to cast HF when AA is up. You're just wasting a GCD when you have a 25% healing buff.
Selfbuff, int flask, no AA.
Def Penance: 24797, 26823, 24591 healing ticks. Total healing: 76161
Off Penance: 7714, 7714+2314ms, 7714 healing ticks. Total healing: 25456 (including 1x multistrike)
Do you understand the fact that you don't need the extra stack with 2pc? You have to use HF and Penance on cooldown even without 2pc, and with 2pc you will have more than a lot of Evangelism stacks by doing that (with 2pc you are able to generate 7 stacks between two AA casts only by using Penance and HF on cooldown).
Of course there's a reason. First of all, you should be using Solace, which is already a big reason why should you use it even with AA up. Secondly, during 12 sec downtime (after AA fades and before AA CD is up) you have no chance to get 5 stacks of Evangelism, unless you are using Smite or off Penance, which is wrong.
Last edited by mmoc19a86bf4f1; 2015-01-30 at 07:31 PM.
Try factoring the bonus from generating one extra stack of Evangelism.
You don't have to even use HF if you're smart about how you use Penance (realistically, you will have to use HF on occasion because I doubt anyone is capable of using Penance on CD perfectly), and there's no reason to cast HF unless you need the Evangelism stack. Keep in mind that HF doesn't benefit from AA, which means that you're essentially wasting the AA buff by using HF when it's up.
Mindbender post-buff >>> Solace with the 2-piece. Loads of top parses use Smite and offensive Penance too.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=97
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=14
So much misinformation, sigh.
Last edited by ceddya; 2015-01-30 at 07:44 PM.